After many years my step father has decided to become reinstated. He has recently moved from out of state and lives very close. Growing up he and I did not have a good relationship, that had changed and we have been very close for many years. He and my mother have divorced. Both her an I have been disfellowshiped. It used to be that you could talk to your family but I found out that has changed. "dad" came to tell me that the elders informed him he could no longer assciate with me. He tried to argue that I was family, he raised my from the time I was 1 1/2 yrs, only to be told by them that I was not his family since he did not adopt me and was no longer married to my mother. I was crushed, my kids are having a hard time understanding the why. Since then I have researching information about shunning and someone mentioned petitioning to have their babtism nullified does anyone know anything about this? Has anyone been granted a nullification? I was baptised when I was young because that was what you did, by 18 I knew that life was not for me. I hate to loose someone who has been in my life for so long. Thru good and bad he was there. I would like to be able to keep our relationship going. If any one has any information please let me know.
PLEASE HELP>>>>Baptism nullification looking for anwsers
by sadeyez 14 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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Celia
Welcome to the board Sadeyez. I don't have an answer to your question, but I know this has been discussed not long ago. I'll do a search. Wanted to bring your post back to the top, as others may not have seen it who may have an answer.
I found this thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/64733/1.ashx Actually, not much is said about baptism nullification, sorry...
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sadeyez
thank you.
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Euphemism
My wife and I tried it, and after waiting a couple of months, they announced that we had disassociated ourselves.
You may have a better case if you actually left at 18; but you need to make it clear to them that you mean business and are ready to back it up with legal action. The nice approach does not work.
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garybuss
I'd notify him that if he starts shunning me it is forever and he can never see my kids again. I'd tell him it's his choice. He sounds like a jerk to me. GaryB -
MacHislopp
Hello sadeyez,
I'm sorry to read about yoyr problems. Just as information, in many
European countries, the best way is:
*low profile
*saying as little as posible...i.e. nothing
*should they send two visitors...Euphemism comment
is the most appropriate :
"....make it clear to them that you mean business
and are ready to back it up with legal action."
Greetings, J.C.MacHislopp
P.S. Don't be shy ....to ask !
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sf
"dad" came to tell me that the elders informed him he could no longer assciate with me.
Another sad case of a destroyed family due to stupid Watchtower policies made by patheticK men...that most patheticK men OBEY in a heartbeat!
Sick choices for what?
sKally
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A Paduan
There's an Aust. saying about real friendship - makes mention of, "sit with him in heaven or comfort him in hell"
he has virtually lost his honour, to those without the honour
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Maverick
I wrote the Baptism Nullifcation letter and sent it in. They changed my status to an unbaptized publisher and DA'd me. None of my family has shunned me. But they shun my daughter who was never a JW! Go figure! I have had JW's wave to me and talk to me at traffic lights, in the Mall, restaurants and at Home Depot. And I have long hair and it is clear I am not longer, "with them"! The Cong. that I was with was told I am an evil apostate and I send letters and cards out all the time. So they have no excuse, they KNOW my stand. The Elders even threatened to DF a sister seen in my company. But the cowards themselves never provoke me personally! I guess they know me too well!
The bottom line is your Father will treat you the way whoever has influence over your Father tells him to treat you no matter what you do or say. It is sad. He can use his good judgement and reason that if he keeps in contact with you and yours that he may, "win you back!" But you will have to reason with him first. Now if the Local Elders have made his shunning you a condition, like a test of faith kind of thing I don't think you will have much luck!
The Baptism Nullification is an "in you face" kind of avenue. I like not letting them have too much control. So anyone that wants to be a pain in the rear may want to do this. But from a strickly legalistic stand...the WTS cheat! Maverick
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hornetsnest
Hi, sadeyez,
I don't mean to be dumping cold water on your hope, but I must be honest too. Don't expect any slack from them at all in this regard. You will find no love, common decency, or humanity whatsoever from them.
Instead, they will slam the door all the harder, with enjoyment, and snicker about it among themselves. I know that sounds awfully harsh, but that is what thousands have experienced from their "loving brothers", even when you are obviously innocent. In my case, they actually admit that I am innocent, but refuse to do anything whatsoever about it.
If you want peace, then you need to read them for what they are: Unfeeling automatons who manifest an insufferable arrogance, and who would not recognize true Christianity if it walked up and bit them in the leg, due to being blinded by their own assumed glory. Only then, when you grow fangs as long as their's are, will they leave you alone.
I have a lawyer's letter written by the Society's attorney Philip Brumley to a Mr. Rizoli, a brother who had been summarily disfellowshipped. It is very long (16 pages) and crammed with legalistic gobble-de-gook, however, it does an excellent job of demonstrating that unfeeling arrogance. It itemizes the 4 classifications of members that they recognize, and it is obvious that they do not allow you "resign". They are exactly like the Mafia in that "once a member, always a member."
Except for it's length, I would post it here. As my PM doesn't work, I can't access any messages that go in it, however, I have an email address that I will set aside for this purpose, should anyone wish to have a copy of it. It is: [email protected]
Let me know and I will send it to you.
Tom Howell
Alias: LoneWolf