March 1st Botchtower - A "Slave Who Is Both Faithful and Discreet!"

by truthseeker 22 Replies latest jw friends

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  AnnOMaly

  Very well-reasoned, ChristianObserver. I enjoyed reading that.

  PS. One of the difficulties I have is reconciling the WTS view that the master has already arrived and appointed them over all the master's belongings. Seeing it from that perspective, 'all the master's belongings' are people - the master's slaves.

  However, a master would own property, possessions, land, and not slaves only. If, according to other texts, Christ's belongings are heaven and earth and authorities, and his slaves are to be joint-heirs with him, how can the WTS think they have already been appointed over all his belongings?
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  minimus

  This is an interesting thread. It seems like there will not be any new information regarding the idenity of that slave, after all. There were some predictions from some who knew Bethel insiders that the "slave"'s identity could change. I guess not, huh?
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  Room 215

  Their teaching on the FDS is as muddled as the claptrap about 1918-1919. For example, they've used the adjective phrase ``1900 year-old" to describe the FDS in their literature, yet fail to show any semblance of a historic link spanning the 1800 some-odd years between the purported first century Governing Body and Russell; quite to the contrary, they depict Russell as someone having the courage to stand alone in contrast to Christendom, a sort of religious maverick.

  From the other side of their mouth, they teach that the appointment to this lofty position came as a result of their having passed a 1918 inspection of all professed followers of Jesus, a latter-day manifestation.

  And all this gets swallowed by guileless JWs without so much as a drop of honey!
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  Nosferatu

  according to Jesus, the slave would still be doing so when the Master arrived in 1914.

  Wow! Jesus really pulled through for us telling us what was going to happen in 1914. If Jesus stated this so plainly, how come the Faithful and Discreet Slave couldn't get it right for so many years?

  When Jesus' presence began in 1914, did he find a group of anointed Christians who were faithfully dispensing food at the proper time? He certainly did. This group could be clearly identified because of the fine fruitage that it was producing.

  Oh shit! Wait, is this Jehovah's Witnesses? It must be!!! IT'S THE RELELATION!!!! Praise Jah! I am more blind than before!

  Jesus did this in 1919, after the slave had passed through a period of testing.

  Oh so true! Jesus came to me with a cup and said, "Take this, for it is my cup, and go into the restroom and fill it with pee". Then Jesus put on a rubber glove.......
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  stillajwexelder

  I have never seen so much circular reasoning in my life ( + vomit alerst of course)
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  undercover

  "The faithful and discreet slave" cannot be one person. Why not? Because the slave began serving spiritual food back in the first century, and according to Jesus, the slave would still be doing so when the Master arrived in 1914. That would represent some 1,900 years of faithful service for one individual. Not even Methuselah lived that long!

  Assuming the apostles were the "slave" in the first century and they eventually died off, who was the "slave" between then and 1914? According to this paragraph the "slave" will have continually have been "serving spirtual food" when the "master arrived in 1914". True, one individual cannot have 1900 years of service but the "slave class" could and would. Who was that "slave" before 1914? Before 1874? Before 1844?.
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  AnnOMaly

  There were some predictions from some who knew Bethel insiders that the "slave"'s identity could change. I guess not, huh?

  It's funny you should say that, Minimus!

  Anyone remember the momentous year of 1995? In May of that year there was a trilogy of study articles on 'flashes of light' where the understanding of the 'sheep and goats' parable as going on in the present day was given as one of the proofs that Jehovah was blessing his servants the WTS. There were also references to the same understanding twice in February that year.

  We know that viewpoint changed. When? That October! Complete U-turn only 5 months later!

  Despite all the 'certainty' and bluster about the 'slave's' identity in this recent article, there could be 'new light' at any time. I'm ready for anything!
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  Pistoff

  And all this gets swallowed by guileless JWs without so much as a drop of honey!

  Exactly. My theory is that all witnesses, including myself and my family, are borderline mentally ill due to all the contradicting ideas they must keep in their head at the same time.

  Another thread?
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  undercover

  Anyone remember the momentous year of 1995? In May of that year there was a trilogy of study articles on 'flashes of light' where the understanding of the 'sheep and goats' parable as going on in the present day was given as one of the proofs that Jehovah was blessing his servants the WTS. There were also references to the same understanding twice in February that year.

  We know that viewpoint changed. When? That October! Complete U-turn only 5 months later!

  Ann, do you have the references for those articles? I'd like to look those up and compare them. I guess if it's all in the same year, it should be easy to reference in the index, but we know how the WTS conveniently forgets to list some of the references.
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  Elsewhere

  *** w95 11/1 p. 19 A Time to Keep Awake ***

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  Therefore, in the final fulfillment of Jesus? prophecy today, "this generation" apparently refers to the peoples of earth who see the sign of Christ?s presence but fail to mend their ways