Crisis of Conscience- World Wide Cease & Desist (page 4)

slimboyfat

I went to a couple of Reachout Trust conventions. Poor old Doug died a couple of years ago. His book Awake to the Watchtower! was the fist apostate book I ever read!

Mike Thomas the ex-Mormon was much easier to get on with.

cofty

Yes I heard Doug had died. He came up to Berwick Baptist Church once to give a talk.

He had a good knowledge of the WT but as he was never a JW I always felt like I knew much more than "the boss". His agenda was very much about converting JWs to become evangelical christians.

Does Reachout Trust still function or is it just a website?

Perhaps the moment for Christian countercult has passed. The predominant culture in Britian is no longer Christian. So when JWs exit the religion now most are comfortable to transition straight to a secular environment rather than taking the traditional detour through evangelicalism.

jookbeard

Cofty; it was an interesting few months in the time I spent under RT's radar, their office in Morden was very close to where I lived so I would pop in there for a couple of hours a time, purchase books etc and chat with Doug and Derek but as soon as it became obvious I was to have nothing to do with their form of christianity I was dropped like a hot brick and at a time when I was hoping for friendship and support I found this very confusing, the issue I found was that RT a counter cult minstry became a cult within a counter cult group, Doug was very bright, charismatic, good speaker and they were morphing yet didn't realise it, the one disturbing thing I found out personally though was that they had left my personal details with some pastors of churches in the London area(so called experts in reaching out to jw's , they were'nt at all and were not even exjw's) and I started to be called at times that were very awkward and unexpected ( the time before mobile phones and internet) and bear in mind I was in a crumbling marriage to a jw this really heightened her paranoia ( she was suffering from mental health issues as well) I found this completely unacceptable but not "out of the blue" in the way they operated, I in time dropped them like a hot brick and I didn't regret it

slimboyfat

Morden? I visited Doug in Richmond. Very posh area indeed.

jookbeard

David I dont really have the inclination nor do I really care why Marc( you're him aren't you LOL) has taken this stance, I was a member of the ukexjw FB page in which he( you) was an "admin" I posted some very innocent memes and he(you) quickly removed them, so clearly showing his(your) true colours which I found childish, stupid and an overreaction so I promptly removed myself from the group, but I am entitled to make an objective decision in all this mess, and my summary is that you Mike and Kim and others have jumped on this "attack Cedars Bandwagon" which I equally find childish and irrelevant,and the common denominator is that you are all exjw's that have embraced evangelical Christianity, a toxic mix which I dont mind speaking about, another thing is that you all show this same persecution complex that jw's do, its like you haven't left the WTS at all, in fact why dont you go back to them? you never hear much of exjw atheists attacking their fellow exjw atheists in this way. I really dont have much to say on this matter TBH.

cofty

RT a counter cult ministry became a cult within a counter cult group

That was also my feeling.

Crisis of Conscience- World Wide Cease & Desist

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