shoot it down

by webclocker 67 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • webclocker
    webclocker

    shoot it down means take it apart, im not inerasted in thesis or university degrees or plastic intulectuals or insiders and outsiders, or people who for effect attach satan to there title , hey because they feel the need to stand out. so use somthing they think is shocking enough to attract the right type of attention [come ahead sainty youve not got it]. i asked for people to shoot it down not huff and puff, if you cant shoot it down crawl back to to sad tittle imaginary gods that are going to save you from the fact that there is a hole in the ozone layer 3 times the size of australia, that speices after speices are dissapearing evrey year, that the country that i live in males produce far less sperm than they did 20 years ago, why because you lot are far to buisy doing the devils twisted little deeds, that your far to buisy looking at your own future never mind your kids. dream on you dont have one .

    you have no future! youve even pretended to your selfs that its no longer a hole in the ozone layer, because that dosnt fit in to your tiny little minds. instead you opted for the easiest thing for your brain to accept and they call it global warming. the whole plannet is being sterilized by micro waves and radiation and the only thing you wish to concern youselfs with is spelling mistakes shift keys. well ive put it to you, ive done my bit. the blood guilt isnt mine. happy victim picking

    but hey if youve got some of gods kids in your house hold, mabey you should look up arrogance.

    shoot it down intullectuals, proffessors, kid on gods, guru's, die hard witnesses, and of course total ego trippers. shoot it down. not oppinions evidence. facts. read the scriptures that i posted and say somthing that means somthing. as im not in the least bit intersted in pseudo intullectuals. (plenty of thows}

    come ahead webclocker

    laugh on riddicule its no skin off my nose

  • webclocker
    webclocker

    i asked for somone to shoot it down not huff and puff, shoot it down dont depress me with doctrine university degrees pseudo intullect and your average ridicule job by someone with satan attached to his name that the best you can do SHOOT IT DOWN means take ity appart that involves reading.

    show me im wrong, SHOW ME, DONT TRY TO CONVINCE ME, SHOW ME, USE A BIBLE, NOT A CRYSTAL BALL, SHOW ME IM WRONG

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    web

    Ok, i give up, superman came to earth as a baby. You win. Put clark kent's coming to earth during babyhood up there w the rest of your dogmas

    SS

  • webclocker
    webclocker

    is that it sainty are you finnished, or was there somthing in there that filterd thriugh to the dream world that your living in. what you cant deny is that somone wrote 2000 years ago about people ruining the earth being brought to ruin. and here we all are. if you dont beleive in god then what hope is there for your future. none if your an evolutionist why are you not taking out the people who are a threat to your genitic lineage. why are you just sitting there and letting the rest of the world kill you off. on the other hand there is always good old god. at least ive got hope mate what have you got. even a glass bubble isnt going to save your existence. laugh on mate youll be standing before him soon enough.

    webclocker

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    David was 30 when god made him king - David was anointed when he was a young lad 1 Samuel 16:13. What significance is his date of anointing?

    Why was Jesus 30 when god gave him his ministry - I thought he was about his father?s business at twelve. Luke 2:49. We know he was twelve then, because the bible account says so. Luke 2:42

    God saw that man had lived long enough on his own and decided that 30 was the age a man was a man. This is ascribing a motive to God. Scriptures, please.

    Luke 3:23 Jesus was about 30 years of age. Not precisely.

    ho-si'

    From G5613 and G1487; as if: - about, as (it had been, it were), like (as).

    This makes October 2005 a conclusion of 6000 years - The length of the history of man is speculation, not yet proven. Where is your proof?

    a day for a day a year for a year - This is your own statement, not the Bible?s. If God?s prophecies were so calendrically perfect, why didn?t the Pharisees know of the Messiah?s coming? The only ones who recognized Jesus for who he was were the ones who saw what he DID.

    Now when John had news in prison of the works of the Christ, he sent his disciples To say to him, Are you he who is to come, or are we waiting for another? And Jesus, answering, said to them, Go and give news to John of the things which you are seeing and hearing: The blind see; those who were not able to, are walking; lepers are made clean; those who were without hearing, now have their ears open; the dead come to life again, and the poor have the good news given to them. And a blessing will be on him who has no doubts about me. Matthew 11:2-6 BBE

    If you read them you will see that they are what Mat 24:21 refers to as great tribulation. The bible says that hasn't happened yet . Yes, and the bible was written 2000 years ago. There was a great tribulation for the Jews. Jerusalem was destroyed in AD 70. Prophecy fulfilled.

    The devil is still in heaven its next year has evicted not 1914 . - You have no physical proof of this.

    Doctrinally speaking, I believe that Satan was defeated 2000 years ago, when Christ died for our sins. I do not believe we have earned another punishing round with the devil. Jesus took that punishment for us. The time, time and half a time was the time he spent in the grave.

    Where, O death, is thy sting? where, O death, thy victory? Now the sting of death is sin, and the power of sin the law; but thanks to God, who gives us the victory by our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Cor 15:55-57

    This But is de A primary particle (adversative or continuative); but, and, etc.: - also, and, but, moreover, now [often unexpressed in English].

    And we have an easy test for your prophecy-making. Want to bet me? Wait until next year. Be a man, come back on that day, to see if you were right. Oh, yeah. What physical evidence will we have that the devil has come? What should I be looking for? Just so we can make the test fair.

    You need a good foundation to have a good argument. Make your foundation more sure, and your conclusions will have more merit.

    Everyone, then, to whom my words come and who does them, will be like a wise man who made his house on a rock; And the rain came down and there was a rush of waters and the winds were driving against that house, but it was not moved; because it was based on the rock. And everyone to whom my words come and who does them not, will be like a foolish man who made his house on sand; And the rain came down and there was a rush of waters and the winds were driving against that house; and it came down and great was its fall. Matthew 7:24-27 BBE

    But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only. And as were the days of Noah, so shall be the coming of the Son of man. Matthew 24:36-37 ASV

    And besides, my son, be warned by them: of making many books there is no end, and much study is a weariness of the flesh. Ecc 12:12
  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Web

    Your theology/numerology is based in a flawed book, a mishmash of egyptology, sumerian stories, ugaritic myth, hebrew folk tales/history/propaganda and zorostrianism. Playing w it has occupied many smart people for milleniums, and may well for a long time yet. Yet, argument about it's internals have never yet ceased, because of internal contradictions. So, you may or may not understand when i am reluctant to use it as an authority and argue internal points, or argue about imaginary dates or ages based on it. Many bible problems that argue against divine origin have been and will be discussed here. However, keep on playing w it, if it turns you on, gives you hope that god is going to come here and fix polution problems, or other problems, when he has never fixed one thing. Progress is all done by humans.

    SS

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Web

    if adam is born 4026 bc eve is born 3996 bc 30 years later. in gods calander that is year 0, which means jesus was born in the year 3995 ad the 2004 years that have past since jesus, and you come to the year your living in 5999.

    Most people know that some bristlecone pine trees in california are about 5000 yrs old. There are other desert dwelling plants that are even older.

    In a few areas of the Mojave Desert clonal creosote rings have been found that are several yards in diameter. Near Lucerne Valley, "King Clone" has an average diameter of 45 feet! Using radiocarbon dating and known growth rates of creosote, scientists have estimated the age of "King Clone" as 11,700 years. Some of these common residents have been here continuously since the last ice age.

    http://www.nps.gov/jotr/nature/plants/shrubs/creosote.html

    August, 1999; Box Huckleberry (Gaylussacia brachycera) - researchers in Pennsylvania have discovered a living plant that is a remnant of the last Ice Age. Using the known rate of growth if this self-sterile plant, they estimated that this 1/4-acre colony is over 13,000 years old. Researchers are still trying to verify the growth rate to determine is that age is an accurate measure.

    March, 2004; Eucalyptus recurva. Also known as "Mongarlowe Mallee" or "Ice Age Gum" it is the rarest Eucalypt in Australia or the world, and is known from only 5 individual specimens. Scientists in Australia are undertaking analyses to determine the exact age of one specimen that is estimated to be 13,000 years old. This aging method also relies on determining the plant's growth rate. Scientists are stilly verifying the growth and performing genetic analyses of neighboring specimens to determine if they are from the same organism.

    http://www.extremescience.com/OldestLivingThing.htm

    If there had been a global flood about 4000 yrs ago that covered the highest mountains, as the bible claims, these plants wouldn't exist today, as they would have been killed by the water. These plants still living are evidence that noah's flood didn't happen, thus genesis is wrong, it's chronology is mythic, dates you postulate for adam and eve are based on myth.

    SS

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Bristlecone pine.

    alt

    Creosote bush.

    alt

  • webclocker
    webclocker

    David was 30 when god made him king - David was anointed when he was a young lad 1 Samuel 16:13. What significance is his date of anointing?

    its not exactly valid, you could say jesus was anointed after adam ate the apple you will bruise him in the heel remmember. and then there is all the prophesies about him down through the generations, the point being,any one can put an argument together and throw some scriptures in, your scriptures dont mean any thing, because you dont under stand what your talking about.

    Why was Jesus 30 when god gave him his ministry - I thought he was about his father’s business at twelve. Luke 2:49. We know he was twelve then, because the bible account says so. Luke 2:42

    now this is just silly, why would god allow the devil to temp a 12 year old who hadnt realy developed yet, after writing down in his law that a son was his fathers responsibilty untill he could register at the age of 30 thats why the devil had to wait till jesus was 30 because up till then he was under the authority of joseph, even if jesus had wanted to take the devils deal, he would have needed joseph approval if he was only 25.

    God saw that man had lived long enough on his own and decided that 30 was the age a man was a man. This is ascribing a motive to God. Scriptures, please.

    of course there a motive to god and please why would i need scriptures gods motive is is to show me and you that were incapable of running our own lives. if you cant look at this plannet and see that. then your a lot more arragant than you sound.

    Luke 3:23 Jesus was about 30 years of age. Not precisely.

    ok so he might have been a month or two older but deffinitly not younger

    ho-si'

    From G5613 and G1487; as if: - about, as (it had been, it were), like (as).

    This makes October 2005 a conclusion of 6000 years - The length of the history of man is speculation, not yet proven. Where is your proof?

    a day for a day a year for a year - This is your own statement, not the Bible’s. If God’s prophecies were so calendrically perfect, why didn’t the Pharisees know of the Messiah’s coming? The only ones who recognized Jesus for who he was were the ones who saw what he DID.

    you tell me why the pharisees didnt know that jesus was comming, or do you need a clue, ok then mabey they were just like you, when somthing was presented to them they didnt realy give it the attention it deserved. instead lauged it off, but hey! he did come and hes coming again. did he not say be on the look out, what do think he ment by that.

    Now when John had news in prison of the works of the Christ, he sent his disciples To say to him, Are you he who is to come, or are we waiting for another? And Jesus, answering, said to them, Go and give news to John of the things which you are seeing and hearing: The blind see; those who were not able to, are walking; lepers are made clean; those who were without hearing, now have their ears open; the dead come to life again, and the poor have the good news given to them. And a blessing will be on him who has no doubts about me. Matthew 11:2-6 BBE

    thers no point to this bit but ill try and help you out with it, john the baptist knew who jesus was while he was in his mothers belly if you remmember he jumped when mary approached with jesus in her belly. the fact that john was baptizing people before jesus showed up and telling people to repent. actually opening the door for jesus, the point about that scriptue is that jesus didnt send them back saying yes i am, he gave john the evidence and left the rest up to john. that all i did here gave you the evdence for you to make your own mind up. print it off and use it for toilet paper if you want.

    If you read them you will see that they are what Mat 24:21 refers to as great tribulation. The bible says that hasn't happened yet . Yes, and the bible was written 2000 years ago. There was a great tribulation for the Jews. Jerusalem was destroyed in AD 70 <http://physics.technion.ac.il/~icps24/histo.htm> . Prophecy fulfilled.

    wakey wakey good morning. revelation wasnt written till ad 96 so how can it be the prophecy of somthing written 26 years after jeruselem was destroyed revelation is about the time of the end. at least do some bible research

    The devil is still in heaven its next year has evicted not 1914 . - You have no physical proof of this.

    Doctrinally speaking, I believe that Satan was defeated 2000 years ago, when Christ died for our sins. I do not believe we have earned another punishing round with the devil. Jesus took that punishment for us. The time, time and half a time was the time he spent in the grave.

    personally if you beleive that then try this jesus died for imperfections figurativley he spat out the apple that adam ate he didnt save you or me. thats for me and you, he made it possible for you to be saved there is a big difference.

    Where, O death, is thy sting? where, O death, thy victory?
    Now the sting of death is sin, and the power of sin the law;
    but thanks to God, who gives us the victory by our Lord Jesus Christ.
    1 Cor 15:55-57

    This But is de A primary particle (adversative or continuative); but, and, etc.: - also, and, but, moreover, now [often unexpressed in English].

    And we have an easy test for your prophecy-making. Want to bet me? Wait until next year. Be a man, come back on that day, to see if you were right. Oh, yeah. What physical evidence will we have that the devil has come? What should I be looking for? Just so we can make the test fair.

    come on if i won how do i get my money if you win well youll have to sue me as ive got none. but the clue that your looking for is the king of the north, look him up when you see him youll know

    You need a good foundation to have a good argument. Make your foundation more sure, and your conclusions will have more merit.

    well what can i say

    Everyone, then, to whom my words come and who does them, will be like a wise man who made his house on a rock; And the rain came down and there was a rush of waters and the winds were driving against that house, but it was not moved; because it was based on the rock. And everyone to whom my words come and who does them not, will be like a foolish man who made his house on sand; And the rain came down and there was a rush of waters and the winds were driving against that house; and it came down and great was its fall. Matthew 7:24-27 BBE

    HERE HERE

    But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only. And as were the days of Noah, so shall be the coming of the Son of man. Matthew 24:36-37 ASV

    NOW THIS IS JUST TYPICAL. WHERE DID I SAY THAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT ARMAGEDON. IF YOU READ YOUR BIBLE PROPERLY YOU WOULD SEE THAT I AM ONLY TALKING ABOUT WHEN THE TRIBULTION STARTS AND ENDS IF YOU READ REVELATION RIGHT YOULL SEE THAT PEACE AND SECURITY COME AFTER THE TRIBULATION MASTERS AND SLAVES. READ IT FOR YOUR SELF OR DO YOU NEED TO RUN OFF AND ASK SOMONE.

    And besides, my son, be warned by them: of making many books there is no end, and much study is a weariness of the flesh. Ecc 12:12

    AS FOR YOU SAINTY IM FINNESHED WITH YOU MATE. IF YOUR REALY THAT INTERSTED GET SOME TREES THAT ARE WINTERING AND SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES TO DROWN ONE.YOU DONT EVEN HAVE A STRAIGHT LINE TO ARGUE DOWN YOUR JUST OUT TO WIN IF THATS WHAT YOU WANT YOU CAN HAVE IT. good subject the flood but who wants to talk to must be winners about it.

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Web

    The invitation was to shoot it down, and so, i took a couple of shots. But, when a hint is put out there that planely and simply, i generally get it. Good luck.

    SS

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