UN scandal...again

by yxl1 44 Replies latest jw friends

  • hawkaw
    hawkaw

    Well done but remember the WTS did not "join" the UN. Only countries "join" the UN.

    Remember the WTS voluntarily "associated" (or "partnered") with the UN. To become an "associated NGO" with the UN's DPI one must voluntarily seek out the UN and voluntarily agree to support its Charter and disseminate the UN's information.

    hawk

  • shamus
    shamus

    Why didn't you tell them that you're now an evil apostate and worship satan, sptting blood on Botchtowers and Asleep! magazines.

  • itsallgoodnow
    itsallgoodnow

    great story. it's like your one and only chance to put that question into their heads... whatever it takes to get them out there researching stuff, any little thing might do it.

  • Winston Smith :>D
    Winston Smith :>D

    Great work, nice 'witness'

  • undercover
    undercover
    Remember the WTS voluntarily "associated" (or "partnered") with the UN. To become an "associated NGO" with the UN's DPI one must voluntarily seek out the UN and voluntarily agree to support its Charter and disseminate the UN's information.

    Good point. Some people might think that this is splitting hairs, but it is important to have the facts straight when presenting this account. If a puzzled JW should ask about the WTS "joining" the UN, it could easily by denied by the very fact that non-countries can't "join". Thus ends the doubt and reiterates to the dub that apostates are just full of evil, vile information. If, on the other hand, the account is presented factually, then a doubting, questioning JW will only find confirmation to what he heard, thus creating an even bigger dilema for him to face.

    Good thinking though, to use the UN-NGO tact. A scandal that can be confirmed by sources not tied to apostates or their literature. Speaking loudly enough for several to hear was pretty good too. You turned being put on the spot into a chance to present the truth about the "truth" to several people not just the one questioning you.

  • blondie
    blondie
    Well done but remember the WTS did not "join" the UN. Only countries "join" the UN.

    Remember the WTS voluntarily "associated" (or "partnered") with the UN. To become an "associated NGO" with the UN's DPI one must voluntarily seek out the UN and voluntarily agree to support its Charter and disseminate the UN's information.

    Good point, hawkaw. It would be good to refer them to the UN website on NGOs as well.

    http://www.un.org/esa/coordination/ngo/

    Blondie

  • Atilla
    Atilla

    The UN debacle is pretty damning and is of course one of the major reasons why I will never go back. However, I have to say it is the little things that just don't add up. Why, because I think the minor details are never viewed as minor. The society takes everything, small events in one's life from attending a school pep rally to celebrating a birthday party and says no.

    No, you can't do that. The micro-management of your life just kills me. I have enough to worry about let alone the society's bijillion rules and rules on rules and new light, etc. This is why I fell away, I only heard about the big things like the UN later on.

  • undercover
    undercover

    That's true, Atilla. It is the little things that bothered a lot of us until we couldn't take it anymore. But many JWs never question anything. The little things don't bother them. They swallow it hook, line and sinker. Then when a scandal such as the UN-NGO thing is presented it can shock them either into denial or into awakening. After that awakening, all the little things that bothered us before start to bother them. In this case, our X-JW friend here had one shot at shocking them. The UN-NGO is a pretty good shock. Hopefully it will awaken some to the little things and maybe they will start to question the WTS.

  • cyber-sista
    cyber-sista

    I'm new around these parts--so what does R&F mean, by the way?

    Otherwise, I appreciated you sharing this experience with us--it was most upbuilding.

    (ha-ha sorry about my language I haven't been out that long)

    Seriously, good job--hope you have helped at least one of the JWs to "awake".

    It is hard not to scream this stuff from the rooftops, but that is difficult as I have chosen to do "the fade" in order to hang on to a couple of JW family relationships for as long as possible.

    aloha, cyber-slinker

  • Gopher
    Gopher
    I'm new around these parts--so what does R&F mean, by the way?

    R&F = rank and file -- meaning the average JW who is just a "nobody" in the eyes of WTS leadership.

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