Are jws really out to save you?

kls

Jws go door to door with their book bags and bibles and try to spread their doomday tactics to as many as possible, but are they really trying to save you or are they pressured to recruit to save themselves.It reminds me of someone selling encyclopedias at doors ,if people don't buy you don't get paid.I remember irritating people at their homes trying to get them to listen to me about the end comming and thinking only of recruiting to save myself.At that time i don't think i was actually thinking of myself but looking back on it that is what it was.Jws are actually in it for them selves to save their own butts.It is a devotion of self love ,to themselves and the watchtower. So how did you feel ? were you actually out to save a stranger or yourself? Really think about this. KLS

Gretchen956

No, to be totally honest I only thought about getting the time in so those elders would leave me alone. I lived for the coffee breaks. Of course at the time I wouldn't have told you that.

Gretchen

Dansk

I genuinely went out to try and save people - though I have to confess my ego got inflated when a study was started or I managed to get someone to come to the hall. Looking back, the best thing I ever did was to NEVER get a single householder to the point of baptism. In fact, the longest study I ever started only lasted about 5 weeks

Ian

stillajwexelder

No -as Garybuss would say -they are out to increase book-magazine ~~sales~~ placements

garybuss

Laughing at Stilla, Thanks for beating me to my own punch:-)

It's a Witness tactic that when they don't want us to look at the result of their actions, to direct attention to their motives, and when they don't want to talk about motives, they will want us to look at behaviors. It's easy to see what the Witness's publishing company doesn't want us to look at. Just look at the opposite of that they are directing our attention to.

They say the motive for going door to door is to save people from being murdered by Jehovah at Armageddon. But, the result of going door to door is more new recruits and more literature distribution (consumption). The more members that are recruited, the more literature that is consumed, the higher the donation stream and the richer the publishing corporation gets.

Their message is, don't look at the results from our literature distribution, look at our motives. Some people are not fools, like the French Government, for example, and the teachings about the activities are wisely ignored and the results are studied. The group has had the same predictable result since it's conception, so it leads people like me to believe their motives are really advancing the corporation by recruiting new members, testing current members, and consuming literature.

The door to door activity is only one activity carried out by the members. A hugely profitable activity is the building construction, rental, and maintenance activity. Another very profitable activity is the solicitation of gifts, real estate, and wills by representatives of the corporation. All done under cover of the motive doctrine. That is, the motive for it all is to save people from being murdered by Jehovah at Armageddon.

There are certainly worker bee class canvassers that believe the cover story and I think more than a few of these are happily deluded and will keep their heads down and keep working. This is what headquarters is banking on. GaryB

sf

This is the very question I ask (Them) when They come to my door. Just what exactly is it you are 'doing' here? Of course I get the usual "we are preaching the good news..."crap. Then I go further and ask "what if I have the wrong "heart condition"? Of course, that is a trigger-phrase most jws understand. They then realize they aren't talking to your average householder.

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

Heya Gary, yesterday was a good day in yahoo. Cleared the room with your post on how their precious wt org is truly only a publishing corporation (masked) as a religion. Wasn't that fun?! lolololololol

Take care and see ya soon, sKally

garybuss

Yes SKally, you must have run about 10 of em off. My post was not an attack on them. It was just my experience as a Witness. Interesting . . . . on all my writings, I have never had a Witness point out one lie, or even one error. I have had them leave me messages on my answering machine like "You lie . . . click". Or e-mails that tell me Jehovah will kill me.

I tell them, "You can't talk to me or look at my research."

They say, "Sure I can . . . . I just don't want to."

FirstInLine

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are they really trying to save you or are they pressured to recruit to save themselves.

I never quite thought of it like that for some reason. Well obviously 90% of the reason they are there is to save themselves. I challenged an elder along these lines one time in front of several witnesses and in his next sunday talk he talked about how salvation was a free gift and could not be earned. I had never heard anything like that from a JW talk-giver. I felt a gasp in the audience as it felt like an evangelical preacher was on the platform.

He's a two-faced rat though. He didn't mean one word of it. I'm sure next chance he got when I wasn't there he would hammer home how necessary field service was to please Jehovah and that it was mandatory to make it through Armageddon. Of course when I ask him straight out he will say no you don't have to do field service.

I think he thought my argument was better than it was and he was filling in the gaps thinking I had more answers than I did.

Its truly amazing apparently he was more aware of the WTS' error than I was yet still defended it.

Special K

the ones I had bible studies with.. I truly tried to save..

I really truly believed it was the truth for many years..

I did better with incidental witnessing than door to door.........

sincerely...

special k

BLISSISIGNORANCE

I was emotionally and spiritually sick when I became a dub.......I needed to save the world and myself! I had left an alcoholic husband but was still in high control mode.

But I have always been a people person so going door to door and meeting new people was a real joy for me...........and dead easy. I did believe the WTS was the true organisation and that their teachings were right so passing that onto others was no problem.

But I did do it primarily for myself in the beginning! Later it was to save the world, and a hint of control still!

Sorry to say I studied with many people, 8 at one time! And 5 became dubs. Fortunately 3 have come out but 2 are still in. Hubby and I have tried to de program them but to no avail! The best we have been able to do to redeem ourselves was to tell friends of mine who were studying with another couple, all about the UN, sexual abuse cover ups, shares, CofC, etc. They stopped the study so we did do some good!

I believe most dubs preach out of habit and fear.

Cheers, Bliss (of the not-so-controlling class anymore)

Are jws really out to save you?

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