IS IT JUST ME?

by Dansk 19 Replies latest jw friends

  • Dansk
    Dansk

    Since being out of the Borg a little over a year now I suddenly realised how much more compassionate and caring I've become. Claire, my wife, said to me that I was NEVER happy as a JW and she's absolutely right - and yet I persevered assuming Jehovah would make things better. He never did, of course.The point is, I've begun to realise just how much Watchtower had its cultish hold over me - even right down to controlling my natural feelings!

    Over the past 6 months or so I repurchased the books on Buddhism that I discarded after being told by my study conductor that they were Satanic. I've found that there's absolutely nothing in the books that any Christian would disagree with - they're all about love and compassion and making the planet a better place. I've retaken my Buddhist vows and attend the Manchester Buddhist Centre. The people there are wonderful and even Christians attend (primarily to learn meditation, I think).

    My feelings are now as they used to be prior to my associating with JWs more than 19 years ago. I now feel compelled to act naturally rather than because "I should, because I'm a JW."

    I also no longer suffer anxiety, nor do I have eczema which disappeared completely within a couple of weeks of exiting. Has anyone else found that their feelings have changed so much for the better since leaving the Borg?

    Ian

  • happehanna
    happehanna

    The relief at attending no more meetings was immense and almost immediately I looked ten years younger. Also when I left my migraines vanished for a while too, funnily enough they have started to creep back since looking at these forums, but it is something I need to do. I dont want to have lingering doubts that maybe they are right.

    But, the best bit of all is not being judgemental any more and having a proper open mind.

    I have done lots of real voluntary work and intend to do more. and once this anger of being duped bu the WBTS has gone I know I will be happy and totally free.

  • eyeslice
    eyeslice

    Hi Dansk,

    No I don't think it is just you. Many of us became increasingly frustrated at being dominated by petty, often unwritten rules and regulations. I am sure these 'hardened' us over time.

    I have found I am more magnanimous in my prayers now. I no longer pray just for the 'brothers and sisters' under going persecution. I have a better understanding of "observe intently the birds of heaven .... still your father feeds them" and believe this must apply to all people everywhere, Witnesses or not.

    I still consider myself a Christian, though I have done some reading about Buddhism on the web and one or two other books on spirituality generally. Not quite brave enough yet to attend a Buddhist, Sikh, Jain, Hindu or Baha?i temple to actually share in worship yet, though I have visited many during my travels in the east

    eyeslice

  • new light
    new light

    It's not just you, Dansk.

    Although I have abandoned all religion for the time being, I feel much more love and empathy for others. I was cold and judgemental as a JW. As soon as I learned the truth about the org., negativity I didn't know I was carrying just melted away. I feel much more spiritual, accompanied by freedom from guilt. All people are on the same field, not just one in a thousand like the JW's teach.

    New Light

  • Gopher
    Gopher

    After I quit attending meetings and the controlling atmosphere, I grew 2 inches taller, lost 10 pounds and became a better dancer.

    But seriously, I have been feeling less like I have to be judgmental, and feel less pressure because of hearing "counsel" to constantly do more, more, more for an organization. I feel like I have more initiative and control over my decisions.

  • acsot
    acsot

    No, Dansk, it's not just you. I was at the point where I felt totally cut off from my emotions, practially indifferent to just about everything, all in an attempt to keep myself "separate from the world." What a load of crap.

    Now I feel so much "lighter" emotionally, I find that I am finally becoming "me" and I can help whoever I want whenever I want, if I want, because I have decided that's how I want to be as a human being. I feel much more connected to everyone and everything.

    Ain't it great!

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost

    No, it certainly isn't just you, Dansk! I'm sure there are thousands, learning the truth about "the Troof", who now feel that way.

    Freedom's just a little word, but how much it means!

    I suddenly realised how much more compassionate and caring I've become

    Yep

    I've begun to realise just how much Watchtower had its cultish hold over me

    Yep

    I also no longer suffer anxiety, nor do I have eczema which disappeared completely within a couple of weeks of exiting.

    Oh yes, me too! For those who know me, this is quite outstandingly an evidence of "something" in my life! Yet I worked at Bethel? Despite all the fanfare and self-adulation, Bethel really isn't all it's made out to be. It certainly isn't the "paradise on earth" that used to be written about in the Bethel Visitors' Book!!!

    From the day I ceased being "in" I've been miraculously cured. How? Was it Satan? Of course not! Yet that is all my family can respond. They're at a loss to understand it. Yet you, Dansk, and so many others understand it.

    You also have not filled your life with negative emotions, all the 'anti' feelings that so many ex-Dubs exhibit. Instead you have filled it with some positives and that's emotionally healthy and strengthening.

    May God bless your path to freedom.

    Cheers, Ozzie

  • garybuss
    garybuss


    Ian, What you are describing is a natural part of exiting a high control group. Margaret Singer Wrote about the phenomenon in her book Cults In Our Midst. It's inverse is called establishing and maintaining the pseudopersonality. In social psychology it's called doubling. When we emerge from the high control group we begin to loose the group established personality like the fading of a summer tan (Singer). The Witnesses used to call it "putting on the NEW PERSONALITY".

    There is a personality the Witnesses want us to assume that makes us submissive, passive, pliable, and obedient. It's all reenforced by the instructions and guidelines, the modeling of other "mature" members, and the constant re-education in the group setting as well as by the "practice" we get by getting into costume and modeling the "new personality" for others at the 5 weekly meetings and in fundraising activities and real estate construction projects.

    Elders and circuit overseers, district overseers and even governing body members have power inside the group and responsibilities but all the while they must be submissive, passive, pliable, and obedient. If they are not they MUST conform or be rejected.

    There is a special problem for those of us raised in the group. We don't have an established non-group personality to return to. I wrote an article about this and it's on www.freeminds.org. Here a few lines from that article.

    ***
    A popular book, Cults in our Midst, By Margaret Thaler Singer (with Janja Lalich), Chapter 12, p. 302: Recovery; Coming out of the Pseudopersonality, contains these two sentences:

    ". . . I will explore . . . a kind of peeling off of the outer layer of identity that was taken on while in the cult. The process is a matter of recovering one's self and one's value system, and of keeping whatever good was learned during cult days while discarding all the not-so-good."

    While this onion peel approach is interesting and I'm sure it applies to some individuals, maybe many individuals, it avoids the masses who were indoctrinated into these groups as children or as adolescents who had no other personality, no other training, and no other world views. The constant repetition of the group's world view became the core beliefs of the individual. Not an "outer layer". Not a pseudo-personality. The groups beliefs and practices made up the core of the predominant operating force of the young member. The human body became the person and beliefs plus experiences became the personality.

    To approach the ejected high control group member like they have a disease like a rash that will go away if treated with enough reality or if treated with the doctrines of a counter believing high control group is adding insult to injury. All ejected high control group members are true believers to varying degrees. They are respectable and deserve respect. To approach the ejected true believer as having a veneer personality that when stripped away will reveal this underlying pliable, supple personality, waiting for the counselor or the pastor to mold would be wrong in many cases. For people raised in groups as children, the pseudopersonality is actually formed after leaving the group. The underlying core beliefs implanted so long ago by the group are still there. That is why so many are compelled to return after being away from the group many years. That is why so many former members have problems with religious rituals like Christmas and political opportunities like voting in public elections.

    ***
    http://www.freeminds.org/buss/pseudopersonality.htm

    Congratulations Ian, Best wishes to you and your friends and family, GaryB




  • gumby
    gumby
    I've begun to realise just how much Watchtower had its cultish hold over me - even right down to controlling my natural feelings!

    Good morning Dansk.

    Most (cults) take away a persons identity which "identity", is formed by a persons freedom to think and make personal decisions about matters of life. A JW has their decisions already tailored made for them as to what to believe, where moral boundries are, and what type of attitudes to have on most matters. That doesn't leave a lot left for the individual to do themselves other than take anti-depressants to deal with their 'lost identity' lives. Once a person realises they can live feel guilt free from religious bondage......they can gain their identity back....or if raised a dub, they establish an identity they never knew they had.

    Gumby

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere
    Since being out of the Borg a little over a year now I suddenly realised how much more compassionate and caring I've become

    Me too... not to toot my own horn but just yesterday I was eating out and started talking to the guy next to me. It turned out that he had recently arrived in America from Zimbabwe and did not have any transportation... so I gave him a ride up the road. The guy was actually walking from an employment agency and trying to get home? he had a bundle of their paperwork and forms and other crap he had to fill out.

    I never would have done that in my JW days... NEVER.

    Of course, in the process I did lose $50,000 while trying to help him recover $24 Million from the account of his deceased royal relative in Africa. (j/k)

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