Watchtower and Illuminati

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  • sf
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    [hit enter accidently]

    http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Illuminati+Jehovah&sa=N&tab=ig

    Here are a couple of threads on topic being discussed in the past and present from above link:

    Illuminati Conspiracy Revealed ... psychiatric system for what it is; a New World Order Nazi Illuminati Zionist Socialist ... their
    children and also to undermine people’s faith in Jehovah God of ...
    alt.illuminati - Feb 26, 1999 by Jerry Newport - View Thread (3 articles)

    WATCHTOWER &. The ILLUMINATI ... (Note, I identified this upper-level in my chart explaining how religions are controlled
    by Satanism.) · The Illuminati within the Jehovah's Witnesses have a ...
    alt.religion.jehovahs-witn - Jun 26, 2000 by Richard Vizzutti - View Thread (14 articles)

    Re: Real ILLUMINATI is a lie that is perpetrated by jewish- ... ... It is no wonder that both Freemasons and Islamic and the rest of the New Age conspirators
    of the Illuminati used the ... He spells Jehovah's name wrong as Jehowah. ...
    alt.conspiracy - Jan 4, 1999 by Jerry Newport - View Thread (2 articles)

    sKally...happy trails!!

  • Golf
    Golf

    Izo, I could be a member of the illuminati and you wouldn't know it. Membership in such an organization has no guarantees.

    If your just journeying into the world of secret societies, expect the unexpected. As I said, there's plenty of material for you to examine. We all have choices.

    Guest 77

  • cyber-sista
    cyber-sista

    If you want to read an exciting novel about religious intrigue read the DAVINCI CODE byDan Brown and the one before that is Demons and Angels. He claims he has done a lot of research and it is historically accurate. I talks about the Illuminiti in those books and I strangly did think of the WT when I read them. Some pretty strange stuff in there--don't know how much of it is accurate, but an interesting read non-the-less. On my top 10 books of the year...

  • orangefatcat
    orangefatcat

    My Son has done a lot of reserch on Illuminati,so i will let him disscuss what he know's here.

    Hey everyone

    first off i just wanted to state that illuminati is not one organization but many and they very fact there are many memebers withen that group of men who know and control such things we can even look to the Skulls and Bones as a major group in it even the american preseident is a member of that group

    i will not go into detail about the JW connenction withen the group because i have found no soild proof in my 5 years of reserch of the conspricacy

    but here are some interesting details that i would like you to consider

    Establishment - An established social order, as: A group of people holding most of the power and influence in a government or society. Illuminati - the group of social, economic, and political leaders (up front and/or behind the scenes) who form a ruling class.

    The word conspiracy, as it relates to this site, will be defined in the context of a scheme: to act in harmony toward a common end. Since the days of Rothschild and Weishaupt this conspiracy/scheme has centered upon hegemony. The people have not submitted to this power, they consent to it - though it is clearly not in their own best interest. Hegemony is a form of control in which those who have power maintain their position, not through force, but through the elaboration of a particular ideology or world view. This form of social control is long lasting, it is an effective, and patient, tactic.

    The establishment, and their puppet politicians, use mysteriously vague language such as: the new world order, global governance, globalism, globalization, the new age, population control, sustainable development, consensus, synthesis, transformation - the vocabulary of doublespeak grows daily. As it has been known for centuries, "alchemists conceal in order to baffle the vulgar." This site exists for the sole purpose of penetrating the veil.

    May 1, 1776, was the most important date in Freemasonry's Luciferic New World Order Plans. On that date an obscure Jesuit-trained professor of canon law at the University of Ingolstadt in Bavaria, Adam Weishaupt, founded a secret society called the Ancient and Illuminated Seers of Bavaria (AISB for short). Illuminati was founded on a mixture of Masonic secrets(--Luciferic Doctrine--), Islamic Mysticism(--Sufism--), and Jesuit mental discipline(--Hatha Yoga--). A unique and dangerous element was it's scientific use of the drug, hashish, to produce an "illuminated" state of mind--derived directly through the Knights Templar's association with the Order of the Assassins (circa 1050 AD).

    Illumination had long been a cherished component of Masonry and other occult groups. The Masonic candidate requests, and is promised "light in Masonry." As he goes up the ladder of initiation, he receives "more light". It is because of this society's emphasis on illumination that the AISB became known by its more common title, the Illuminati.

    The term Illuminati, is the plural of the Latin, Illuminatus, meaning "one who is illuminated." Thus, it means a person who has received the full extent of the initiation that is available through Freemasonry.

    Technically, an Illuminatus is a Master Mason who has received all the "light" Masonry can bestow. He is beyond 32° and even beyond 33°! Such people are known as the Masters of Masters of the Temple, and collectively are known by several names other than the Illuminati.


    Great White Brotherhood
    Argentium Astrum (Silver Star)
    Order of One
    Torch-bearers
    Invisible College
    Custodians of the Plan
    The Lords of Compassion
    Guardians of the Grail
    Society of Illumined Minds
    World Mind
    Council of Masters
    Hesychasts
    Order of the Perfectibilists
    The Council of All Beings
    Wisemen
    Invisible Order
    Secret Brotherhood
    The Brain Trust
    Crusaders of the Green Cross
    Seekers on the Threshold
    Masters of Wisdom
    The Hierarchy
    Council of Nine
    Fraternitas Saturni
    Hermetic Brotherhood of Light

    Most of the elite were born elite. Their upbringing is steeped in tradition and is a kind of secret society in of itself. Their father was a Mason, his father was a Mason, his father's father was a Mason. Perhaps while growing up the child heard stories of his father's involvement in other secret groups.





    The outcome of this 'secret destiny' is a World Order ruled by a King with supernatural powers.

    This King was descended of a divine race; that is, he belonged to the Order of the Illumined for those who come to a state of wisdom then belong to a family of heroes-perfected human beings.'
    Manly P. Hall 33° Mason, The Secret Destiny of America





    It goes back to their belief in Atlantis and the subsequent migration of priestly kings after the destruction of the continent. This body of 'enlightened humans' settled in the Nile delta, and passed their knowledge to the Ancient Egyptians. Who in turn, kept these secrets safe, only to be revealed to intiates of the mystery schools. This is why Masonry is so rife with Egyptian symbolism. Freemasonry itself, they teach, was originally practiced in Atlantis. Before the destruction of their civilization (either by their own hands, or punishment from God) these Atlantians were said to have a worldwide culture (ruled by one king), a perfect religion and science.

    Michael Howard, an excellent researcher of this 'occult conspiracy,' summed up his own findings this way:

    A very important aspect of the work of the secret societies has always been the ultimate unification of the world religions. This aim was based on the restoration of the pre-Christian Mystery Tradition, which had been persecuted by the early Church and forced to go underground in medieval Europe, and the recognition that all religions had originated in a universal spirituality referred to as the Perennial Philosophy, the Primordial Tradition or the Ancient Wisdom. The mystical beliefs of the secret societies were, and indeed are, based on the Hermetic maxim 'As above-so below' which teaches that the natural world is a material reflection of the spiritual. It forms the esoteric basis for the Ancient Egyptian Mysteries, Gnosticism, Esoteric Christianity, the Cabbala, the Hermetic tradition, alchemy and societies such as the Templars, Freemasons and Rosicrucians. The occult doctrines of geomancy, alchemy, astrology and sexual magic taught by these secret societies were used as symbolic metaphors illustrating the progression of the individual from material darkness to the spiritual light of understanding.


    All of these paths eventually leads the initiate into a belief system that he is priviledged and chosen to carry on the 'Great Work' or 'The Plan', that he is above the rest of humanity, he has become 'Illumined'. Therefore imposed rule is a 'right'. The ONLY allegiance is to the 'Light'. It is no coincidence that Illuminati, in its literal translation means-'bearers of light'-Lumen, derived from Lucifer, 'angel of light'. That, my friend, is the final secret of the illuminati. One World Government under one World Religion, ruled by one King. It is nothing but an evil imitation, a counterfeit of the Kingdom of God.


    In Beyond the Light, William Schnoebelen describes his experiences in witchcraft and Masonry. As he climbed up the ladder in both disciplines, he found himself square in the face of the Illuminati:

    "The branch of the Illuminati into which I was inducted was supposedly directly descended from European Chapters of the AIBS....Was I not part of a higher form of humanity? This is what I had been deluded into believing by Illuminism. I was told I was the next step up in the ladder of evolution, and that Illumined Ones were as far above human beings as people were above apes!

    From somewhere...Weishaupt produced the "Law of Fives." His original inner council was structured around the pentagram (symbol of the Blazing Star, Sirius). According to our teaching, this inner council was made up of five men: Weishaupt's friend, Kollmer, Francis Dashwood (of the Satanic Hellfire Club), Alphonse Donatien DeSade (where we get our word "sadism"), Meyer Amschel Rothschild (founder of the great banking house) and Weishaupt.


    Enforcing secrecy within the Illuminati was done in the same manner as in the Greek Mystery Schools and Super-Masonic Organizations. The candidates were required to confess compromising information about themselves i.e., sexual indiscretions, and previously hidden criminal behaviour as if he were confessing his sins to a Catholic priest. This reminds one of the rites conducted in another secret society of fame, namely, the Order of the Skull and Bones. There's plenty of evidence to suggest the orders are one and the same, or at least the modern version of Weishaupt's order. Moreover, if Weishaupt's Illuminati were to survive it's "supposed" abolishment, besides its obvious survival in higher Masonic degrees, the Order of the Skull and Bones would be a worthy and powerful candidate.

    It must be realized, however, that Weishaupt's Ancient and Illuminated Seers of Bavaria (AISB) was only an outward manifestation of the Illuminati. The plans uncovered for the overthrow of all the governments and religions of the world were certainly giving to Weishaupt by that most "august body"; here and there only hinted about. They represent the "new man" of marxism; the race of perfected ones that Hitler ? after a face to face meeting ? had said were terrifying. The Secret Chiefs; whether human or some form of higher-intelligent beings. The Secret Brotherhood who desire to usher in the Golden Age of totalitarian rule.


    Witchcraft never was extirpated in the whole of western history. Moreover, if we need fix a date for the institutionalization of witchcraft in the Christian West, we should look to 16th century Protestant England where, under Elizabeth I, the sorcerer John Dee achieved state power, founded Freemasonry and built upon the occult edifice of Catholic heretics such as Girodano Bruno and Pico della Mirandola in pursuing a "Christian" kabbalah and an alliance with the black magic practicioner, Rabbi Judah Lowe of Prague.

    Michael A. Hoffman II

    If the facts concerning the Royal Institute of International Affairs and the Council on Foreign Relations be accepted, it will be seen that the proper study of political mankind is the study of power elites, without which nothing that happens can be understood. These elites, preferring to work in private, are rarely found posed for photographers, and their influence upon events has therefore to be deduced from what is known of the agencies they employ.

    -A.K Chesterton in The New Unhappy Lords, chapter XXIV

    ``There does exist and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent, in the way the radical Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other groups, and frequently does so. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for 20 years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960s, to examine its papers and secret record.

    -Carroll Quigley, Georgetown University history professor (deceased), in Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time, 1966, p.950

    [...] In addition to these pragmatic goals, the powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the worlds' central banks which were themselves private corporations. The growth of financial capitalism made possible a centralization of world economic control and use of this power for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect injury of all other economic groups.''

    -Tragedy and Hope, p.324

    ``... I am now quite sure that Tragedy and Hope was suppressed although I do not know why or by whom...''

    -Carroll Quigley, in a letter to a friend

    "The Trilateral Commission doesn't run the world, the Council on Foreign Relations does that!"

    by Winston Lord, Assistant Secretary of State, the U. S. State Department.

    you may also want to check out CNN archives for ILLUNMINATI but to continue

    some members of freemason and Bonemens

    Here are a list of known bonesman that have played quite a big roll in american history:

    -Alphonso Taft, a founding member of the Order who served as the Secretary of War under President Rutherford B. Hayes (1876-1880).
    -William Howard Taft, the only man to ever serve as both the President of and Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court.
    -Henry Lewis Stimson, partner in the Wall Street law firm of Root and Stimson, Secretary of War under President Taft (1908-1912), Governor General of the Philippines (1926-1928), Secretary of State under President Herbert Hoover (1929-1933) and Secretary of War under Presidents Franklin D. Roosevelt and Harry S. Truman (1940-1946).
    -Averell Harriman, investment banker with Brown Brothers Harriman, director of the Lend-Lease program of the U.S. State Department (1941-1942), U.S. Ambassador to the Soviet Union (1943-1946), Governor of New York, Under Secretary of State for Asia (1961-1963), and presidential secret envoy to Soviet leaders Stalin, Krushchev, Brezhnev and Andropov.
    -Robert Lovett, partner in Brown Brothers Harriman, Assistant Secretary of War for Air (1941-1945), Deputy Secretary of Defense, Secretary of Defense (1950), leading member of the New York Council on Foreign Relations.
    -Harold Stanley, investment banker, founder of Morgan Stanley.
    Robert A. Taft, United States Senator (1938-1950).
    -Prescott Sheldon Bush, investment banker and partner in Brown Brothers Harriman, United States Senator from Connecticut, father of George Herbert Walker Bush.
    -George Herbert Walker Bush, United States Congressman (1964-1970), Chairman of the Republican National Committee, United States Ambassador to the United Nations, first American Diplomatic Liaison to the Peoples Republic of China, Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (1975-1977), Vice President of the United States (1980-1988), President of the United States (1988-1992).
    -George Walker Bush, President of the United States (2001- ).
    -John Thomas Daniels, agro-industnalist, founder of Archer Daniels Midland.
    -Hugh Wilson, foreign service officer, Counsellor to Japan (1911-1921), U.S. Minister to Switzerland (1924-1927), Assistant Secretary of State (1937-1938). Ambassador to Germany 1938), Special Assistant to the Secretary of State (1939-1941), Office of Strategic Services (1941-1945).
    -John Forbes Kerry, Massachusetts senator and 2004 Democratic Presidential candidate.
    -William F. Buckley, Jr., conservative commentator and founder of the National Review magazine

    in fact even rush Limbaugh talked about it this the other morning, of course he did'nt admit to even knowing what the S&B are at first, he quickly recovered when the caller demonstrated their level of knowledge.

    click on this link to hear Limbaugh make an ass of himself, yet again: http://mfile.akamai.com/5020/wma/rushlimb.download.akamai.com/5020/clips/04/02/022604_16_bonesman.asx

    but there is a little of my current knowledge im going to reserch these sites that you have mentioned for myself but if you have any comments just ask OFC and she will relay the message too me i hope that helps somewhat for those who may not have known the extent of the Illuminati

  • orangefatcat
    orangefatcat

    one more thing

    - Bible Code I-II are great reads

    -Devenci Code

    -The Code Book

    -Freemasonary and The new world order

    read those they explain alot as well

  • gitasatsangha
    gitasatsangha

    DaVinci code is a fictional book by a writer of fiction. The author never meant it otherwise, and has said so. The Bavarian Illuminati do not exist. It would be difficult for any other group calling themselves that to have any real lineage to the original order. But it's big time fodder for conspiracy theorists. The funny part is that these conspiracy theories have been ongoing for centuries. (America's first major Third Party was the AntiMasonic party.) People seem to want to believe that there is some underlying purpose to the world, weather it's good or bad. Chaos is hard to accept on its own terms, I guess. So you can believe Jesus' descendants were the Cathars, that the Templars hid the holy grail, and that the Illuminati put wierd symbols on Proctor and Gamble cans if you want to. There's one born every minute.

    I can say, as someone who researched a lot of "esoteric" groups, and as a former Frater of one, that the early Watch Tower group did use Rosicrucian symbollogy,without question, but they were not alone in that fact. There was a literal explosion of esoteric and "secret societies" at that time. It included working class groups like the Moose Lodge, on up to quasi-Masonic organizations like Rite of Memphis-Misraim, and on further to mystic-religious groups like the Rosicrucians, Golden Dawn, and the Martinists. We think of them as mysterious moreso now because they mostly no longer exist, or are at best shells of their former selves (Free and Accepted Masons), or are changed into a New Age profiteering house (AMORC). The fact is that Pennsylvania was a focal point for a lot of Rosicrucian Activity, with at least two large R+C fraternities operating from that state. Russell was a wealthy man, and he read a lot. He would have known about such groups, and possibly he even got ahold of some of their documents. Maybe we'll find out years from now that Russell knew Clymer, but even that doesn't matter.

    Russell tried to present his own mystical theories and interpret the bible, and he was not above using symbollogy. He wasn't going to use Catholic or Othodox Iconography, and he needed something, since he was, after all, inventing a new religion. Using Rosicucrian and Masonic symbols would have been an easy thing to do. As to whether he ever received a R+C or Masonic degrees, that would never be revealed by his Fraters and Sorors, if he had any, and he would certainly have never have revealed that himself. Even if he did not, it's quite possible that one of the early members of the Bible Students in Pennsylvania did.

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