In official JW think, is there anyone worse than an apostate?

by True North 25 Replies latest jw friends

  • True North
    True North

    In official JW think, is there anyone worse than an apostate? JWs are supposed to believe that apostates are worse than serial killers, or child molesters, or even Hitler, right? It's been a while for me so I may not remember this exactly right or what I remember may now be "old light" so I'd appreciate it if anyone could provide an update on the latest JW position on this.

  • xjw_b12
    xjw_b12

    There is no hope for us.

    We are the evil slave class.

    We have committed the unforgiveable sin, of knowing Jehovah, then committing the ultimate sin of blasphemy against him.

    We have died the second death.

  • Ginosko
    Ginosko

    Only Satan the "father" of all apostasy.

  • blondie
    blondie

    Someone who "sins against the holy spirit" as described in Hebrews 10:26-31 is worse than an apostate.

    To date the WTS has not identified that as apostasy.

    In fact, they say apostates can repent and come back.

    w84 3/1 31 Questions From Readers


    Any who apostatize and do not repent by the end of this system of things will experience the same fate as the "weeds," being "burned with fire" or destroyed completely.?Titus 3:10; 1 John 2:18, 19; 2 John 9-11.
  • Rick Aust
    Rick Aust

    I've never heard of someone who was labled as an apostate coming back to the WTS. has anyone else? I suppose if someone knew the truth about the WT then how could they come back.

  • Stefanie
    Stefanie

    Maybe if they had a lobodomy.

  • Scully
    Scully

    Rick Aust writes:

    I've never heard of someone who was labled as an apostate coming back to the WTS.

    I do. I'll see if I can coax him into posting something about it.

    Love, Scully

  • GermanXJW
    GermanXJW

    Come on, there must be something worse than me. ;)

  • sf
    sf

    WT 15 Feb 2004 p16

    Guard Against Deception by Apostates

    6 Satan has long used apostates in his efforts to seduce God’s servants. (Matthew 13:36-39) Apostates may claim to worship Jehovah and to believe the Bible, but
    they reject the visible part of his organization. Some even return to the God-dishonoring doctrines of "Babylon the Great," the world empire of false religion.
    (Revelation 17:5; 2 Peter 2:19-22) Under divine inspiration, the Bible writers used strong words to expose the motives and methods of apostates.

    7 What is it that apostates want? Most are not content to leave the faith that they once perhaps viewed as true. Often, they want to take others with them. Rather
    than going out and making their own disciples, many apostates seek to "draw away the disciples [that is, Christ’s disciples] after themselves." (Acts 20:29,30)
    Regarding false teachers, the apostle Paul sounded this urgent warning: "Look out: perhaps there may be someone who will carry you off as his prey." (Colossians
    2:8) Does that not describe what many apostates try to do? Like a kidnapper who carries an unsuspecting victim away from his family, apostates prey upon trusting
    members of the congregation, seeking to carry them away from the flock.

    8 What methods do apostates use to achieve their aim? They often resort to distortions, half-truths, and outright falsehoods. Jesus knew that his followers would be
    victimized by those who would "tell all kinds of evil lies against" them. (Matthew 5:11, Today’s English Version) Such malicious opposers would tell what is not true
    with the intent to deceive others. The apostle Peter warned against apostates who would use ""counterfeit words," spread "deceptive teachings," and ‘twist the
    Scriptures’ to their own ends. (2 Peter 2:3, 13; 3:16) Sadly, apostates succeed in "subverting the faith of some."—2 Timothy 2:18

    9 How can we guard against being deceived by apostates? By heeding the advice from God’s Word, which says: "Keep your eye on those who cause divisions and
    occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them." (Romans 16:17) We "avoid them" by steering clear of their
    reasoning—whether in person, in printed form, or on the Internet. Why do we take such a stand? First, because God’s Word directs us to do so, and we trust that
    Jehovah always has our best interests at heart.—Isaiah 48:17,18.

    10 Second, we love the organization that has taught us the precious truths that so plainly separate us from Babylon the Great. At the same time, we recognize that
    our knowledge of God’s purpose is not perfect, our understanding has undergone adjustments over the years. Loyal Christians are content to wait on Jehovah for all
    such refinements. (Proverbs 4:18) Meanwhile, we will not abandon the organization that God is pleased to use, for we see the clear evidence of his blessing on
    it.—Acts 6:7; 1 Corinthians 3:6

    sKally [ http://profiles.yahoo.com/wturls ]

  • ARoarer
    ARoarer

    Watchtower is the true apostate.

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