Louisiana cops can come right in without a warrant!

by Yizuman 23 Replies latest jw friends

  • MorpheuzX
    MorpheuzX

    Awesome! We don't need no darn inalienable rights. Let's just keep blotting out clauses in the Constitution. I'm sure we can trim a few off the Bill of Rights, right? After all we all know our government would never do anything wrong! In fact, let?s just rip up the Constitution and give John Ashcroft and George Bush free reign to do whatever they want ? oh wait we already did that, it was called the Patriot Act.

    In another thread, a poster inquired about interesting books to read, well one that's rather relevant: 1984 by George Orwell.

  • Pleasuredome
    Pleasuredome

    lovely stuff

  • Steve Lowry
    Steve Lowry

    Just last night a cop came to my door and asks where my wife was. (Really I?m not kidding.) She had just stepped out to get us some burgers for dinner when he knocked on my door. When I told him of her where abouts, he said she had called the police because we had had a fight. To which I said, no fight had taken place. He asked me if my address was "####"? I said it was but no fight or problems existed. To which he said, "Don?t tell me there?s no problem, I got your address on my computer!" About this time some lady came running down the street shouting her address which was just two digits off from mine. Instead of this guy apologizing, he looked back at me and said, he that he was just about to go into my home and look for my wife, and then he left. He was a power hungry nazi little prick and it showed in the way he handled himself. Well, I got fking pissed and I called the police department and raised hell. Five minutes later a Sargent knocks on my door. I told him about the situation and he apologized, but defended the cop?s behavior. To which I said, you always have to behave professional and this clearly was unacceptable behavior. He reluctantly agreed and apologized again and said he would 'talk? to the officer. He also told me they had had an officer stabbed in the line of duty that evening during a domestic violence call, so everyone was a bit on edge. Sure I understand that but that doesn?t give the guy the right to act like an asshole at my door just cuz he?s a cop and he's a bit on edge.

    I guess if that woman hadn't of come down the street shouting when she did, I would have had a cop forcefully entering my home without my permission and scaring my little girl half to death.

  • abbagail
    abbagail

    Somehow I missed hearing about this on the news, thanks for the info.

    Steve, how terrible and freaky. That is soooo bad. Good for you for raising hell. My adrenaline would've been through the roof.

    Inch by inch, little by little, on the road to hell and dictatorship...

    Here's another article/editorial about it in the Greenville, Mississippi "Delta Democrat Times," which says the ruling covers not only Louisiana but also Texas and Mississippi...FWIW...

    Abbagail
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    http://www.ddtonline.com/articles/2004/03/28/news/editorials/edit1.txt

    Greenville, Mississippi - Local News

    Sunday, March 28, 2004

    Knock, knock ? but this one is no joke

    Ruling erodes constitutional protections


    First came the U.S. Patriot Act passed by Congress mere months after the 9/11 events. Then, in 2003, came the addendums to the Patriot Act, which Congress has been asked to extend and approve.

    Much of the Patriot Act ? after more careful review ? has little to do with terrorism abatement and more to do with the intrusion of government and law enforcement agencies into the privacy of individuals. These intrusions border on, or are an outright stripping away, of some basic constitutional rights guaranteed to a free people in this country.

    Now much closer to home comes a recent federal appeals court ruling from the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans, which ruled that evidence found or seized by law enforcement from a warrantless search, can be used in court.

    Considering the number and types of abuses already recorded against law enforcement agencies across the country ? from the Federal Bureau of Investigation on down to local police departments ? this ruling now opens the door for more possible mischief and abuse.

    The 5th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling covers Louisiana, Texas and Mississippi, and has an immediate and direct effect ? not only in the state ? but in municipalities as well.

    What the court has basically said in its ruling is that police officers in these states can search homes and buildings for evidence without a warrant if they have a "legitimate law enforcement purpose."

    The 11-4 ruling replaces a previous standard set in 1994, when the 5th Circuit held that police can make a so-called protective sweep only if officers are there to arrest someone.

    The ruling came from a Baton Rouge case which was heard first in U.S. District Court then appealed to the 5th Circuit Court.

    The Associated Press reported on Friday that the decision came in the case of a Denham Springs, La. man, Kelly Donald Gould, who was arrested in October 2000 on federal gun charges. He allegedly threatened to kill unidentified judges and police officers.

    East Baton Rouge Parish sheriff's deputies went to Gould's trailer without a search or arrest warrant, but were invited into the trailer by another resident. Gould, authorities were told, was asleep in a bedroom at the time the deputies arrived.

    Because of the Gould's threats and criminal history, the deputies said they looked for him under the bed and in two closets, where they found three rifles. They later found Gould hiding in the woods and seized the weapons after they got him to sign a permission for the search.

    U.S. District Judge James Brady ruled that the guns could not be used as evidence because they were obtained illegally. A three-judge panel of the 5th Circuit upheld that decision, but encouraged prosecutors to request a hearing before the court to reconsider the legal precedent on which it was based.

    Dissenting justices argued the ruling establishes another exception to constitutional protections against unlawful search and seizure.

    The AP story goes on to report that Judges Harold DeMoss Jr. and Carl E. Stewart writing for the court, said "I have no doubt that the deputy sheriffs believed they were acting reasonably and with good intentions. But the old adage warns us that ?The road to hell is paved with good intentions."'

    Any evidence discovered during that search is now admissible in court as long as the search is a "cursory inspection," and if police entered the site for a legitimate law enforcement purpose and believed it might be dangerous.

    What's a "cursory inspection?" Who defines what is "dangerous?" Would they define a "legitimate law enforcement purpose" after they enter and then find evidence to support a crime? Are these terms left up to local law enforcement to define and interpret as they want? One would hope not.

    What does this mean for local residents?

    Well, it wouldn't matter if a person lived on Nelson Street, Bayou Road or VFW Road, any police officer can now enter your house without a warrant if he/she felt it was for a legitimate law enforcement purpose and, then, basically go on a fishing expedition for evidence.

    And the police can say, well, it was a dangerous situation and we had to enter to protect ourselves.

    This is surely a case to go to the U.S. Supreme Court, where one would hope the constitutional rights of individuals against unlawful searches and seizures would be upheld.

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