SPOT ON!

by Dansk 14 Replies latest jw friends

  • Dansk
    Dansk

    Claire, knowing of my interest in Buddhism, recently purchased a book for me: Exploring karma & rebirth by Nagapriya (published by Windhorse http://www.windhorsepublications.com/

    On page 5, in the introduction, the following paragraph made me sit up as I immediately thought about JWism:

    "It is common to approach religious doctrines in the same way as we approach everyday statements about experience: we think they are either 'true' or 'not true'. We may think of them as 'mirrors of nature' that reflect the world back to us exactly as it is in some absolute sense. If we accept the doctrines, we tend to cling to them in what may even be an absolute kind of way. We tend to take on the whole package: if this is true then that is probably true too. We become a 'defender of the faith' to which we have subscribed and we may begin to experience criticism of it as a personal attack. We invest in the truth of the teachings. This can lead us to become dogmatic, defensive, and even aggressive to the point of suppressing or persecuting those who criticize us. At the back of our minds we perhaps sense that not everything we have taken on quite hangs together or makes sense, and this makes us still more rigid in our defence of it."

    The author then goes on to write:

    "But if a spiritual tradition has any substance, it shouldn't need defending and it will be able to withstand honest scrutiny. If it doesn't, we should probably look for something better."

    I think Nagapriya is spot on. We can see how we used to be - and why JWs act as they do towards us now.

    The difference is, we have put into practice honest scrutiny.

    Thought I'd share,

    Ian

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    Thanks Ian

    That is easy to fall into. It leads to a belief system. My beliefs are pretty well modular, now. Take out a piece, take out 3 pieces, add one, whatever. But, i have few beliefs.

    SS

  • Puternut
    Puternut

    Dansk,

    Interesting that you are looking into Buddism. I recently went to a Buddist temple, listen to a lecture from a visiting monk from San Fransisco. He made a lot of sense. He was originally from Sri Lanka, and was a wise man. The simplicity of the Buddist faith, made a lot of sense. I am just learning about it. I wanted to see what others believe.

    Puternut

  • talesin
    talesin

    Dansk

    Yes, that pretty much describes my philosophy on belief systems. They are imo exclusionary, and what good is it to be close-minded? Thanks for sharing.

    And SS, like you, I pick and choose what fits with my philosophy. It is ever changing and fluid, just like life. (heheh, that's how to 'get around' the belief terminology, you just call it a 'philosophy).

    tal

  • JamesThomas
    JamesThomas
    "But if a spiritual tradition has any substance, it shouldn't need defending and it will be able to withstand honest scrutiny. If it doesn't, we should probably look for something better."

    The truth we seek is realized via the window of "honest scrutiny" and investigation into our mind and being. The purity of Truth is here, but we do not question the inherited patterns of thought or action. We do not look critically at the person we believe ourselves to be. Perhaps we deserve our confusing and imprisoning religions and it is best we defend them, for we are too asleep to appreciate the wholeness and vitality of our own True-being. j

  • talesin
    talesin

    We do not look critically at the person we believe ourselves to be. Yes, self-examination is key. And never-ending. Thanks, jt. As usual, words to live by. tal

  • Flowerpetal
    Flowerpetal

    James:

    The purity of Truth is here, but we do not question the inherited patterns of thought or action. We do not look critically at the person we believe ourselves to be.

    I think I have a little bit of a grasp of what you're saying. My comment is, maybe we don't look critically at the person we believe ourselves to be because we are afraid we won't like what we see? This is something I've been trying to do--to really find out what I am all about. And there are things I don't like which bother me right now, that I want to fix but I have to put it off for now because of the position I'm in in my personal life--but also I find that I feel empathy/sympathy for the suffering of other living things, including humans. That part of me I really like. I read with great interest your replies in the thread Minimus started regarding "Why Does God Permit Wickedness?"

  • shotgun
    shotgun

    Ian...great comment...spot on for JW's and most other religions

    I don't know if I trust Nagapriya though.....I worked with him building the great wall of China in a different life and he was always playing pranks on the stone masons...what a crazy guy. His name is great for scrabble too.

  • Flowerpetal
    Flowerpetal

    Hillary, I also enjoyed your posts in that same thread, "Why Does God Permit Wickedness?"

  • hillary_step
    hillary_step

    I think H.G.Wells put it rather succinctly, when he said, "If horses had a religion, their God would look like a horse!".

    HS

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