by LyinEyes 26 Replies latest jw friends
rofl @ wine + pretzels.... that actually sounds like a more fun kinda memorial. Invite a few friends over, put out a big-ass bowl of pretzels, give everyone a glass of wine... Then you get everyones attention, and shout.. "To Jesus, drink up!".
Only problem with "Keep doing this in remembrance of me"... if ya drink too much of that wine ya wont remember a thing, and it will have all been useless.
FMZ
FMZ:
That's why Paul spoke of limiting the drinking a little. A little bit like forty strokes, less one
It was a perfect substitute for the Memorial and it helped me shed some of the "chains" the WTS still had on me, both mentally and emotionally.
What I don't understand is WHY do you need a substitute for the Memorial. You are almost saying it's important to observe it. I don't get it. I won't give them the satisfaction of thinking they have anything right, because they don't.
In my mind if you observe the Memorial, or need a substitute, you still have the chains both mentally and emotionally.
I really am not saying this to offend. I just don't understand why any of you are doing this.
Princess, you have to keep it at a level the little ones can understand. For now, just tell them that "it is only the bad people who go to church". That should get them off your backs about it till they are old enough to understand that you aren't joking, lol.
They've kind of figured that out on their own. Zoe has a friend who's parents are very involved in the church behind us (baptist). The little girl is the biggest bossiest brat around. Zoe went from loving her to just hating her. She is five and told me she'd rather play alone at recess than play with Breanna. A boy in her class has a very religious family and is the biggest troublemaker in the class.
The only thing they are interested in is Awana. The kids make it sound like so much fun and they get invited to it almost weekly. I told them they still have to do church stuff and listen to someone explain what they think god is and try to tell them what to think. In the summer we have to deal with a week of kids screaming during Vacation Bible School. They them it sounds like great fun. Too much "god box" stuff involved. I'm going to try to get out of the house early those days and stay away until it's over.
Who'd a thunk living behind a church would suck so much? I swear I'm going to blow up the next time the youth pastor tries to be nice to me while rolling his eyes telling someone that "we've met". Yeah, we've met while my husband is telling you to shut the hell up at 6am on a Saturday while your busload of "christian" children run around the parking lot yelling and waking up the neighborhood...along with other similar "meetings".
OK, I obviously have church issues. I like your beer story Dede. It's priceless.
Hi Mulan:
What I don't understand is WHY do you need a substitute for the Memorial. You are almost saying it's important to observe it. I don't get it. I won't give them the satisfaction of thinking they have anything right, because they don't.
Well, for me it was a one-time symbolic gesture to observe the Passover according to the traditions of Judaism, because at that time the "meaning" it had for me was not so much a substitute for the Memorial (other than the time of year that it was), but, like the Israelites coming out of Egypt, a celebration of their new-found freedom from slavery. The Jewish rituals are so vastly different to what the Memorial is, I don't think "substitute" is really accurate. Just like Easter and the Memorial are vastly different observances.
But your point is well taken about not giving JWs the satisfaction that they are getting something right.
Love, Scully
Not that I am a "believer" but this scripture may bring some comfort to those who are still feeling a little sad about not attending the memorial.
Matthew 18: 19-20
" 19: Again I truly say to you, If two of you on earth agree concerning anything of importance that they should request, it will take place for them due to my father in heaven. "
20: "For where there are two or three gathered together in my name, there I am in their midst"
Mulan:Some people just do.
The JW's haven't got the monopoly on the celebration. They just attempted to take it over.
If someone "does it" to help break some mental chains, and that works for them, "power to their elbow" I say!
Rituals like that can be helpful in reinforcing a new mindset, IMHO. It's a mind thang.
Princess:
In the summer we have to deal with a week of kids screaming during Vacation Bible School.
I can understand why that might be irksome. However, at the same time it sounds kinda cute.
Maybe that's because I love kids, but don't have any of my own
Sandy:Ya might want to look at the context of that quote
