I remember the same old interpretation, Englishman. But that's a long time ago.
One time I used that scripture on my dad. He spanked me. I didn't do it again.
AlanF
"Do Not Be Irritating Your Children"
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blacksheep
From KJ version (online)
1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. 2 Honour thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise; 3 That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth. 4 And, ye fathers, provoke not your children to wrath: but bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord. 5 Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ; 6 Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart; 7 With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men: 8 Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free. 9 And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.
To me this is simply a statement about mutual reponsiblity. Children/Parents/Servants/Masters all must understand their roles and give MUTUAL respect.
Note: the scripture in question says ?bring them up in the NURTURE and ADMONITION of the Lord? Very, very different slant from ?discipline and mental regulating? of Jehovah..
The NWT translation is, quite predictably non-sensical and devoid of spirit.
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Englishman
Alan F said:
I remember the same old interpretation, Englishman. But that's a long time ago.
I've just had some communication from someone who reckons what i'm looking for is in the mid 80's.
I know that I read this in 90/91. Her Ladyship accepted 2 mags on the door, and I read it with astonishment.
Englishman.
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Englishman
I've got it!
The 91 WT did say that lack of discipline irritated children. It was part of the "Do you follow instructions" article:
the FamilyWithin
There are various areas for which we are given instructions. One is within the family circle. Marriage and family are of divine origin. The Bible says that God married the first human couple and told them to have children. (Genesis 1:27, 28; 2:22-24) The Creator has provided instructions for all members of the family as to their respective duties. For example, the husband and father is the head of the household, which means he has the responsibility for providing instruction, food, clothing, shelter, protection, and discipline. He also makes important family decisions. As husband, he should show consideration for his wife and assign her honor as to a weaker vessel. (Ephesians 5:22, 23; 1 Timothy 5:8; 1 Peter 3:7) The wife should be in subjection to her husband, show him deep respect, and be his helper and complement. And the Scriptures point out that children must be obedient to their parents.?Genesis 2:18; Ephesians 6:1-3; 1 Peter 3:1, 2.
What happens if these instructions are overlooked? Disagreements and disputes occur when husbands lack consideration for their wives, and wives show little respect for the husband?s headship. In fact, such things have caused the breakup of many marriages. The disobedience and the rebelliousness of children have brought great sorrow to many parents. Often, parents are much to blame for not bringing up their children according to the proper discipline, thus irritating them.?Ephesians 6:4.
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