Yes here is another story about my cult minded husband,but this one really blew me away. The Silentlambs Caucus that was recently in Nashville was in our local paper last Sunday. I saw the article before my husband did so i knew what it said. I did not say a word about it ,i just thought when the time is right i will say something to him about the artical. Well last night as he was getting ready for the memorial , i asked him what thoughts he had on the Silentlambs artical. It went like this ,,,, ME, so what do you think of the sexual abuse among jw children?,,,, HIM, It is not like what they say at all there might be a few abusers but they are in the family and they have the choice to go ,the the police, either way if they are doing these things they are disfellowshiped. These things are supposed to happen Jehovah is weeding out the bad besides the 5th Estate show and the girl in the artical are the same ,they keep using the same person.
Me,,, You know things about jws are going to come out , what about the UN scandal ? ,,, HIM, If the watchtower did have anything to do with them it was for our watchtower to get information. ME, So it is okay to use the wildbeast for information,,, Him, no comment. Then he said i know alot will come out against us because it is supposed to happen , it only makes us stronger that we are in the last days and are being persecuted , Jehovah warned us of these things.
I said well i think Silentlambs is doing a wonderful thing to help these kids.,,,He said o'h ya they have joined SNAP with the other religion 's that evil. Are you ready for this one, he then told me if i like Silentlambs so much i should go f--- them. Spoken like a true cult mind. I am done with this ( be nice they don't know any better , this is WAR.
How my cult minded husband feels about sexual abuse and Silentlambs.
by kls 16 Replies latest watchtower beliefs
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kls
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English Patient
Hi
Your husband shown great ignorance and fell into the trap of name calling during your discussion. When a person's arguments begin to fail, you always know that you have won the argument when they resort to attacking you rather than attacking your argument.
Since he believes he is such a big follower of Jesus Christ himself, why not ask him why he believes that the Watchtower is God's organization if he even concedes that there are abusers and scumbags within the congreagations. The fallacy of Jesus 'weeding out the bad seeds' is nonsense even by the Watchtower's own words when all of a sudden they decided we are not living in the time of the harvest. Ask him, then, what did Jesus mean when he discussed that every good tree produces good fruit ;- but every bad tree produces bad fruit. How can a good tree produce bad fruit?
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franklin J
hey KLS,
I am sorry that you have to go through this with your husband. .
Wait until he cools down. If you were never a JW ( I was; and know how they think) , cannot understand that they are really convinced they have God on their side. The brain washing is indelible and pervasive throughout ones life. Give him time to cool off. I would suggest some counselling for him ( or maybe as a couple); but I know from experience that JWs do not approve of this ( unless you go to the elders---don't go there)
You will never be able to convince him of any of the controversy around the JWs, until he is ready to open his mind and question it.
good luck to you, Frank
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DevonMcBride
he then told me if i like Silentlambs so much i should go f--- them.
Are JW's allowed to say the f word? Shouldn't he confessed to the elders for saying one of Satan's words?
Devon
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hawkaw
Don't have a war with him. You can't win a "pi$$ing" contest with a skunk.
Continue to stay in a very non confrontational questioning style and never loose your cool. If you can, let him bring an issue and not you.
There is a very good chance he might not come out of the "fog". But give it time and you may be surprised. I have watched over the years ones come out - so it does happen with time and patience. Its good you can come to this board and sound off to us instead of him.
The point about the associated NGO status with the UN's DPI is that it is an "offence" under the JWs doctrine to "partner" with the UN as an "associated NGO" (example - Their Refuge - A Lie! article in the 1991 WT magazine clearly identified that only false religion would partner with the beast through the NGO associations at the UN and that JWs would never do that!!!!!). JWs died in Malawi and were imprisoned in many countries following the leadership's wishes when it came to political neutrality. The DPI Directories show the leadership knew of the partnership. This is hypocrisy and based on the Nov. 15, 2001 article on hypocrisy, anyone who practices it including the JW leadership would not be part of God's Chosen organization. You can't be a faithful and discreet slave [emphasis added on discreet] when you partner with the UN for no matter what the reason. Note that "discreet" word. Also Remember that the "you are allowed to lie doctrine" (theocratic warfare) only allows for "lying by omission" and nothing else.
hawk
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BluesBrother
I too live in a "Divided Household" with me as the now unbelieving husband , who attends some meetings so as to support my wife,
It is not easy,, to say the least. The issues can arise in any conversation . My wife, an otherwise intelligent person is just blinkered .. You are not alone in being verbally abused . Please dont take it too seriously.
Dubs feel threatened, they are fearful, they have not the courage to face what the rest of us have.. Maybe one day.............
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czarofmischief
Don't have a war with him. You can't win a "pi$$ing" contest with a skunk.
LOL! Great metaphor. Nor would you want to win such a contest.There's only one way to deal with a skunk - RUN AWAY!
But that is a horrible thing for him to say - he must be agonizing over it. He doesn't want to be disturbed in his cozy little bubble.
CZAR
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kls
Franklin j , i was in the cult for a few years but it had to many holes in it so i opened my eyes and got out. He has been in for 28yrs , if he doesn't get it now he never will. Being nice does no good , i have tried it all and now he started a war.
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95stormfront
he then told me if i like Silentlambs so much i should go f--- them
I'm never confrontational with my wife and I usually reserve my comments to myself when she starts talking in watchtowerese unless she specifically ask but, Oh....if my wife ever told me something like that, the gauntlet would've been thrown down.....War is Declared.
This was clearly a threat that if you have nothing nice to say you'd better keep your mouth shut if addressing any issue relating to their WT god.
Frankly, I really think that a very serious heartfelt apology is due you.