A question for the Athiests....

by desib77 28 Replies latest jw friends

  • desib77
    desib77

    I have a question for those who do not believe in God.....how do you feel that life came to be?

    I'm certainly not criticizing anyone's beliefs. I'm just trying to figure out what I believe and am curious about all viewpoints.

    Desi

  • gitasatsangha
    gitasatsangha

    life came to be.. through causes and conditions which were agreeable to the development of biological life.

    (not an athiest, but not a theist either)

  • talesin
    talesin

    Good question, thanks for asking.

    Simply put,

    After lots of soul searching, I decided that it just didn't matter to me. It was very freeing. So, really, I don't care how we got here. Now I just wonder, how do I make the best of my time while I am here? That's, imho, the real challenge!

    talesin

  • patio34
    patio34

    Hi Desib77!

    That is an excellent question (survival of the fittest doesn't explain arrival of the fittest!). And would seem to be a real stumper and knock evolution right out of the ball park.

    However, and there is usually an "however," it becomes even more impossible to explain how God happened to exist. To just say that he always has doesn't explain anything. To say life is too complex to spring into being on earth is much simpler than saying something like GOD didn't need to be designed, etc.

    Do I make sense? I do to me, but then . . . lol.

    Patio

  • Satanus
    Satanus

    As near as i can tell, materialist/atheist/evolutionists see life as a self perpetuating, ongoing biochemical reaction. Thus, there is not really any such thing as life. The biochemical reaction only gives the appearance of life, or intelligence, or love, or whatever.

    Myself, i see evolution as likely having happened, but i see spirit underlying, perhaps driving it. The spirit or force behind it may possibly not be intelligent. Rather, it may be exploring, or trying different things.

    SS

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine
    how do you feel that life came to be?

    Good question. All I know is that if the answer "God did it!" wasn't intellectually satisfying to me as a 5 year old (but who made god??), it certainly isn't intellectually satisfying to me now. The theory of evolution doesn't pretend to answer the question, even though it answers alot (not all) of the subsequent questions of about how the various life forms got to the stage they are now.

    Unlike talesin, I guess I can't say the answer doesn't matter to me, but it only matters as an intellectual curiousity, it's something I'd love to know whether the answer is purely physical, or super-natural.

  • LittleToe
    LittleToe

    I'd like to just jump in and state that Biogenesis is a different topic from bioevolution, as commented on in "Survival of the Fittest".

    I'm more for some level of "guided creation", or "someone lit the taper of the big bang", myself, vaguely in line with what SS wrote.

    Science hasn't really got a satisfying answer for the former, yet. I suspect it will have one day, though.

  • drwtsn32
    drwtsn32

    I don't know... but what it boils down to for me is saying "God did it" isn't a satisfying answer. It makes the "problem" much more complex because now you have to explain how God got here.

  • glitter
    glitter

    Creationists sometimes say things like "if you blew up a pile of bricks you wouldn't get a house".

    This is the only planet we know that currently has life on it. This is how it is, this is all we have experience of.

    Maybe we *are* the only planet out of the infinite number of planets in the infinite Universe that currently has the precise conditions for life to flourish on it.

    Maybe if you blew up and infinite number of piles of bricks you *would* get a house.

  • AlanF
    AlanF

    : I have a question for those who do not believe in God.....how do you feel that life came to be?

    I'm not strictly an atheist, but an agnostic, but will answer the question from my perspective with another like it:

    I have a question for those who believe in God.....how do you feel that Godcame to be?

    If one argues that my question is meaningless, then to argue that your question has meaning is to engage in special pleading. If one question must have an answer, then so must the other. The converse is also true.

    AlanF

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