A question for the Athiests.... (page 3)

Kenneson

It seems to me that if there was a Big Bang, then there must be a Big Banger. Of course, I can't prove that. But then I don't know if I can prove the Big Bang either.

Undecided

I'm undecided.

It would seem to me that God would reveal himself in some believable way if he expected humans to beleive he exist.

Supose your father hid in a closet and your mother said he was your father and he never said anything, never came out, no one had ever seen him except what someone had written on a note about him. Would you beleive he was really there? Especially if your life depended on wheither you believed he was there or not? Why wouldn't he just say,"I'm in here." so you could hear it?

There is probably so much we can't know that we are wasting our time trying to figure it out.

Ken P.

LittleToe

I'm undecided.

And I'm LittleToe - pleased to meet you

Maybe he just speaks to His children...

Alan:
My comment was more from the perspective that we are gaining a reasonable understanding of how biological life evolves, and the timescales involved.

Not so any other form of life that may, or may not, exist.

Realist

hi desi,

i am somewhere between an agnostic and an atheist. i don't rule out the possibility that the universe has a deeper meaning but from what i have seen through my scientific studies it seems rather unlikely.

to the development of early life...saintsatan has described the scientific view pretty well. the universe and all particles in it are guided simply by the physical laws. from the beginning of time (big bang etc.) to today nothing else has influenced them. by mere chance the first self replicating molecules and later cells formed. the ability for the molecules to do so under certain environmental conditions is inherent in the laws of the universe. if the laws would be different we would simply not exist and could not asked that question.

and what appears to us a free will is nothing but the highly complex unpredictable desicions made by our brain which are however all based on the uncontrollable movement of particles (in this sense the arbas are right with their fatalism ). That realization is depressing on one side because it makes our existence pointless on the other hand it is somewhat comforting and certainly quite fascinating!

Undecided

LittleToe,

I've seen many of those he supposedly talks to. If that is what it takes to be his children I'd just as soon not be a relative.

Ken P.

LittleToe

Gee, thanks UnD
Why doncha just slap a guy in the face...

Blueblades

Agnostic:Coined ( 1870 ) by Thomas Henry Huxley < A - 2 + Gnostic.A person who believes that the human mind cannot know whether there is a God or an ultimate cause, or anything beyond material phenomena.

I have come to think that the human mind is locked out when it comes to trying to answer questions like this.The discussions go on endlessly with no satifying answers in search of God.

Blueblades

Undecided

Sorry Little Toe,

I wasn't referring to you, I was talking about some of the local people I know from my town. There are some good ones too, who have a loving attitude. Just because they claim God talks to them doesn't make it so, at least in my mind.

Ken P.

Swan

This has been a very interesting discussion. Although I have no evidence, my pet theory is one I came up with as something that I might use in a science fiction story.

What if life in the universe is as common, prolific, and diverse as it is here on Earth. What if it was like the value of pi? What if it was like the Pythagorean theorem? What if any planet with a certain set of conditions, like that of Earth, or Mars, always resulted in life? What if life was as prolific elsewhere as it is here? What if the formula for life is just unknown to us yet? What if we may never understand it, or can even be capable of understanding it? What if life out there was like us in a certain set of circumstances, and totally alien under a different set of circumstances. What if that life is so alien to us we could never truly understand them?

Just some ideas I'm kicking around.

Tammy

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