Michael 3000,
I would expect you to say the same things about Bill Clinton and Al Gore, as they spoke in black churches if you wish to be taken as having a consistent view of Christianty in Oval Office.
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Michael 3000,
I would expect you to say the same things about Bill Clinton and Al Gore, as they spoke in black churches if you wish to be taken as having a consistent view of Christianty in Oval Office.
Well, as a member of the forum who is left-wing, I am definately anti-Bush and opposed to the war. However, I totally support the troops. I have family in Iraq. I have friends in the National Guard that have been called to active duty. I have a coworker that has just returned. I suspect that there are very few of us who have not been touched personally in this way, by the war. You can disagree with the president and be against the war and still be a good American.
If you can contribute monetarily, I'm sure it will go to good use. But, even if you are of limited means, there are so many other things you can do.
-Show your support with yellow ribbons. Cheesy? Maybe. But let me share my aunt's comments on them. Her son was sent to Iraq a few months ago. She has a giant yellow ribbon on her front porch. She says that every time she sees a yellow ribbon on someone's home, car, clothing, it's like a small prayer for her son's (or someone elses son or daughter's) safety.
-A local radio station recently ran a DVD Drive for members of one of the local National Guard units. Apparently, they don't have much to do over there when they are off-duty. Watching movies is a big way to pass the time. Plus, I'm sure that for a few moments, it's nice to get caught up in a movie and forget where they are. The local station collected upwards of 1000 DVDs.
-Get involved with whatever polical group you feel closest matches your views. Be it Democrats, Republicans, Greens, Whoever... Work to elect the candidates you think will do the best job for our country. All of our soldier, no matter where they are, are there to protect us and our freedoms.
-Operation DearAbby.net: Below is a press release from DearAbby.net. While it provides a simple way to send a message to the soldiers in the Middle East and around the world, it means a great deal to our men and women in harm's way.
More than 2 Million Messages Sent to Troops Via OperationDearAbby.netWashington, D.C. (Jan. 5, 2004)?More than 2 million messages! That's how many messages www.OperationDearAbby.net has posted from well-wishing individuals to servicemen and women in the Middle East and around the world. OperationDearAbby.net is an official Department of Defense program and secure Web site
The original mail campaign, Operation Dear Abby, was created in 1967 by Dear Abby, the most widely syndicated columnist in the world. The Internet version was launched Dec. 20, 2001, after anthrax attacks made it impossible for letters and packages to be mailed to generically-addressed military units or no-named addresses.
Today, OperationDearAbby.net is the White House's and Pentagon's preferred method for the public to send individually-written electronic messages of support to U.S. troops. Because it serves all branches of the military, individuals sending messages can be assured that their sentiments are directed to the military branch of their choice.
"Despite well-meaning individual's wishes to mail cards, letters or packages to servicemen and women with only a troop number or unit address, it is in the best interests of our young men and women who are overseas to use OperationDearAbby.net to send messages," says CDR Rudy Brewington.
"It's also not advisable for different pieces of mail to be sent in one package and addressed by name to one serviceperson with a note that asks that serviceperson to distribute the contents of the package to other soldiers. All-in all, sending an electronic message is faster, easier and safer for loved ones than sending unsolicited mail," says Brewington.
Messages are delivered by the military electronically to any service member's computer. For service members without a computer, the military prints out and delivers messages at mail calls or posts to bulletin boards.
The messages have been supportive, touching and funny, and from people of all ages and walks of life, says Dear Abby, aka Jeanne Phillips, whose personal thank-you note to the troops is the first item seen on OperationDearAbby.net. "A typical letter may read, 'We're thinking about you and want you to know how proud we are.'"
OperationDearAbby.net's technology is provided by the Space and Naval Warfare Systems Center (SPAWAR) and its Web site management is provided by the Navy's Lifelines Services Network.
OperationDearAbby.net is proud to have links from participants like AARP, Hallmark Cards, Inc., Sodexho USA, Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. and the White House Commission on Remembrance.
Most importantly, let others know how they can help support our troops.
CountryGuy
I opposed the war because I was afraid of what it would turn into, and it almost has. HOWEVER, I do not oppose finishing the job that was started. I support the troops. My nephew is a Marine and just returned home a couple of months ago. He might go back. I worried about him everyday he was away.
The fact is if the US doesn't take the lead in doing something about terrorizim nobody else will and we will all pay the price later.
MIchael3000,Your hate-filled rant is just what I did not want. But then again what else can one expect form one that supports Air America. Appropriate name too, full of gas bags like Al Franken.
Um, "hate-filled rant"? Right. By all means, don't let the facts get in the way of your rhetoric.
Michael 3000,
I wrote this:
It is not my intention to start a flame war, or to say my side is better than your side. It is simply to find out. So please, I really don't want a my side is better than your side war. Enough rhetoric has been bandied about, and I for one am sick of it.
Obviously, you either neglected to read this, or just ignored it in your attempt to propagate your viewpoint (which you are entitled to).
Um, "hate-filled rant"? Right. By all means, don't let the facts get in the way of your rhetoricBy all means, please don't do it yourself.
Wow big dog, you'd be a real liar if you hadn't weasled in the word "many", which can be very subjective.
For instance, many of the opposers of this war support the Palestinian terrorists. They are blatantly anti-American, ie. America and capitalism are the roots of evry evil in the world. They support Socialism and Communism.
Support for this war in Iraq belies claims to "support the troops".
SixofNine wrote:
Wow big dog, you'd be a real liar if you hadn't weasled in the word "many", which can be very subjective.
Well, the word many may be subjective, Six. However, in my experience that is what I have found. My opinion is based on the fact that I attended both of ANSWER's Los Angeles rallies, and from talking to those that supported the rallies.
I'm also glad that you sem to hve the ability to discern my intention as being "weasel" like. I think you should have gathered that from my previous posts on this subject.
LA big Dog:
Okay, which would you like to hear in ten years time;
"Oh, thank you for the $1,000 during the second Gulf War, it made my daddy dying so much easier to cope with".
or
"I really appreciate all the people who marched against the war and had the troops bought home. My daddy is probably alive today because of them".
Of course, I think the pooch has been so well and truely screwed it will be some time before the troops can really withdraw; they'll be no helivac from the Embassy roof this time around.
But I think fiscal support for the fm9ilies of dead soldiers is only one way of supporting the troops.
So if you have read this, and you have not done something to "support the troops"
You seem to equate support by ones manifestation of physical or vocal deed. Support first starts in the heart....the rest is just display.
My .02 on the war in Iraq:
When Bush and Blair were in their war-mongering stage, I hoped they were right. I hoped that if they did invade they would find WMD and connections to Al Quaida - but I had my reservations about going in so strong when so many other nations and the UN were against invasion. Bush's speeches were a lot of rhetoric without a lot of proof. I felt like that we, the everyday people and other nations, needed to see more proof before we committed to battle.
Now, a year into it, we see a lot of things were wrong. This is one f**ked up mess - but it's too late now. We're in it. We've got to finish it. How? I can't even imagine how. It's a mess. But we made it, we gotta clean it up. I knew we were in trouble after Bush called an end to "hostilities" or "battle" so early. You can't just go in, take out the government and then sit back and watch. We(the US/UK) should have occupied that country. Ruled it militarily until the complete country was stablized. Then and only then, set up a new Iraqi government. That can't be done in a year. It takes years if not a decade to do that. But Bush was so trying to convince the world that we weren't trying to "take over" Iraq but "free" Iraq that he made many tactical mistakes and this is the mess we are now.