more stuff on diet sodas

by shera 87 Replies latest jw friends

  • drwtsn32
    drwtsn32

    LOL ball! Good one.

    People are overlooking the painfully obvious: aspartame is made up of a few simple components found in many other foods. It's not some exotic chemical invented by man.

    People have reported the same dozens upon dozens ill effects that Richie listed in his article by simply taking a placebo. It doesn't mean much.

    But ... this debate really doesn't matter. If you don't want to use aspartame that's cool. It won't hurt you NOT to use it.

  • SheilaM
    SheilaM

    Dr: I think Diet Drinks are responsible for major obesity. I worked at Citibank and watched women start working there at a normal rate, they would begin consuming diet soda and they would become HUGE. I do wonder if this is my nieces problem. I think sometimes "normal" things can cause "abnormal" problems, for me I am allergic to milk...lactose intolerant for years people thought everyone could drink milk, they were wrong.

  • Princess
    Princess

    Dr: I think Diet Drinks are responsible for major obesity.

    I seriously agree. At the very least they stimulate the appetite. People also seem to think they offset the calories and fat in the candy bars they are washing down with the diet soda.

    The phosphorus in cola leaches the calcium from your bones contributing to osteoporosis.

    Doc, you can get help. It's not too late. Steve quit at 43...you are still a youngin.

  • funkyderek
    funkyderek

    I just emailed this to my sister my niece was just diagnosed with systemic lupus....keep your fingers crossed that this is all it is
    Even after reading the debunking? Why would you deliberately contribute to these blatantly false rumours?

  • drwtsn32
    drwtsn32
    I seriously agree. At the very least they stimulate the appetite. People also seem to think they offset the calories and fat in the candy bars they are washing down with the diet soda.

    I drink diet only for the taste. I can't tolerate regular pop. Diet pop doesn't make me feel hungry at all. Maybe it does that to some people, but I think it's more likely that they have unhealthy eating practices already. Not aspartame's fault.

    Does it seem logical that someone would gain weight from drinking 6 cans/day of diet pop (0 calories) and not regular pop (900 calories)?

    The phosphorus in cola leaches the calcium from your bones contributing to osteoporosis.

    I will look into this and see if it's true or not. I've also read on the Internet that milk itself leads to osteoporosis. Not sure if that's true, but their reasoning was that osteoporosis is only a problem in western lands where a lot of dairy products are consumed. In eastern countries where they rarely eat mlilk products, osteoporosis is much less common.

    Doc, you can get help. It's not too late. Steve quit at 43...you are still a youngin.

    So far there is no real evidence against aspartame itself. All of the stuff posted on the Internet is untrue and has been debunked many times. However it continues to spread and people keep believing it.

    BTW, I also drink a lot of unsweetened ice tea. In fact lately I've been drinking more of that than pop.

  • drwtsn32
    drwtsn32
    Dr: I think Diet Drinks are responsible for major obesity. I worked at Citibank and watched women start working there at a normal rate, they would begin consuming diet soda and they would become HUGE.

    Probably because they had poor eating habits. Aspartame is zero calories and cannot *directly* cause you to gain weight.

    for me I am allergic to milk...lactose intolerant for years

    Most adults are intolerant to some degree or another. Babies have the enzymes for breaking down protein in milk, but your body slows its production of that enzyme as you get older. Cow's milk is for baby cows, not adult humans.

  • drwtsn32
    drwtsn32

    Rachel,

    The first hit on google turned up this link: http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art14612.asp

    It says cola/osteoporosis thing only affects women. So I'm safe.

    Also, I read that a single can of cola has only 2% of the recommended dietary intake of phosphorus. Most of the phosphorus you need comes from meat, cheese, grains, etc.

  • Bryan
    Bryan

    Richie,

    I would like to have seen a link to your information.

    Thanks,

    Bryan

  • Richie
    Richie

    El Blanko: you got it right where you made the observation that big business and its profits are more important than the general health of individuals ? the big hand of corporate greed is overwhelming and devastating.

    Drwtsn32: Of course there were some misspellings of only the word ?aspartame? ? lol. I have seen medical reports and other ?official? documents from scientists which had more misspellings and yet were still understood as scientific and believable. In fact the report which I copied in my previous post is quite scientific, especially when you study some of the references, there is no doubt that a major conspiracy is at work in forcing aspartane?oooops aspartame into foods. Just read it again and check against the references. The evidence is just overwhelming in that aspartame is plainly dangerous to ingest.

    True, aspartic acid and phenylalanine are found, for instance, in milk and other protein sources, it?s different when they are added to a product in high concentrations and then flooded into the bloodstream, as these two amino acids, now out of their natural environment, begin to break down into toxic products. Further, when aspartame breaks down in the body, it releases methanol, a gas that negatively affects optic nerve function and interferes with blood supply to the retina, resulting in vision loss. So given these concerns, is it any surprise that tens of thousands of complaints have been lodged, including reports of dizziness, epileptic-like seizures, insomnia, vertigo, rashes, and anxiety?

    Another interesting observation: In 1996, Ralph G. Walton, MD, professor of clinical psychiatry at the Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine, revealed his analysis of 164 aspartame studies with human significance. Seventyfour (74) of the studies had industry sponsorship ties while ninety (90) were independently funded. Of the 74 industry-linked studies, all reported no problems with aspartame. Of the 90 independent studies, 83 (92 percent) revealed one or more problems. (Remember when the tobacco industry sponsored studies on the hazards of tobacco?). Nothing further needs to be added here, as the facts speak for themselves?.

    Have a great non-aspartame day!

    Richie :*)

  • drwtsn32
    drwtsn32
    Of course there were some misspellings of only the word ?aspartame? ? lol.

    lol... I was mostly joking. That didn't stop me from reading the information you gathered.

    Just read it again and check against the references.

    Most of those references were a joke. "600 airline pilots have reported severe problems when consuming aspartame-laced drinks." For a reference I'm supposed to check with an org with an anti-aspartame agenda.

    I'll take some time and post my comments on the info you gathered and show why many people don't believe this propaganda. My only suggestion is to not instantly believe everything you read. If you search you will find counterarguments to each point in the information you gathered. Look at both sides.

    Further, when aspartame breaks down in the body, it releases methanol, a gas that negatively affects optic nerve function and interferes with blood supply to the retina, resulting in vision loss.

    Methanol is found in many food products. It sounds scary to say it breaks down to formic acid or formaldehyde, but that is a normal, safe process and is what happens each time you drink fruit juice.

    Because the FDA conveniently lists aspartane as a ?food additive?, it removes the legal requirement for adverse effect reporting...

    Uh huh... so why why saccharine was labeled a carcinogen for so long? Don't you think there were big companies that didn't want that to happen to good ol' saccharine? If aspartame was truly bad, it wouldn't matter much to the companies that use the product. They would simply switch to another artificial sweetener. And the anti-artificial sweetener propaganda machine would start in on that "chemical weapon."

    described several recent aircraft accidents involving confusion and aberrant pilot behavior caused by ingestion of products containing aspartame.

    Where did he get these facts from? The reference, like most of them, is useless if you actually want to check the source of this information. How many airline crashes do you hear about? They are almost without fail caused by mechanical problems or weather.

    tumors were removed from laboratory animals and animals were ?restored to life? in laboratory records.

    Again, the footnote listed after this statement is not even a reference. It's just an additional statement that should have been put in the main paragraph. No way to check this assertion for validity.

    During the 1991 Gulf War, all military personnel were provided free supplies of aspartame-laced soft drinks together with experimental vaccines,nerve gas antidotes and personal insecticides. They were also treated to direct biochemical warfare compounds. The result is Gulf War Syndrome

    This is so rediculous!!! They probably also consumed water and food. Why not blame the gulf war syndrome on that?

    since high doses instill a craving for calorie-laden carbohydrates.

    Maybe it does in some people... I don't know. I know it doesn't have that effect on me. Again, the reference is a joke ... doesn't list any particular publication to check. Just a name of some guy.

    even the American Cancer Society confirmed that users of artificial sweeteners gained more weight than those who didn?t use the products, further undermining the supposed ?purpose? for the existence of aspartame in the food

    Probably because people have unhealthy eating habits already and are trying to counter it by eating "diet" products instead of eating healthy. Not aspartame's fault.

    It is the only chemical warfare weapon available in mass quantities on the grocery shelf and promoted in the media.

    More scare tactics that show this is propaganda.

    It has also been indicated that women with an intolerance for phenylalinine, one of the components of aspartame, may give birth to infants with as much as a 15% drop in intelligence level if they habitually consume products containing this dangerous substance.

    The key here is that they are intolerant to a protein component found in aspartame (and also found in all other protein-bearing foods). If you're allergic/intolerant to something you shouldn't eat it!! What about people who are deathly allergic to peanuts? Are peanuts also a weapon of mass destruction?

    ?the Federal Aviation Administration conducted its own cognitive research and, according to experts, found no contraindications that would prevent pilots, or anyone, from ingesting aspartame.?

    Not surprised they didn't find anything. So they fall back on the conspiracy theory that the "FAA is in on this scandal." Yeah right! What possibly does the FAA have to gain? I suppose the greedy aspartame company paid them off?

    The symptoms of aspartame intoxication include severe headaches, nausea, vertigo, insomina, loss of control of limbs, blurred vision, blindness, memory loss, slurred speech, mild to severe depression often reaching suicidal levels, hyperactivity, gastrointestinal disorders, seizures, skin lesions, rashes, anxiety attacks, muscle and joint pain, numbness, mood changes, loss of energy, menstrual cramps out of cycle, hearing loss or ringing in the ears, loss or change of taste, and symptoms similar to those in a heart attack

    Throw out a big list of symptoms everyone has experienced and many people will be happy to believe that aspartame must be causing it. I especially love how there are many contradictory items here. It causes hyperactivity and loss of energy!

    Aspartame is the only biochemical warfare product on grocery shelves....

    More unsubstantiated scare propaganda.

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