The resurrection of the flesh of Jesus Christ

by hooberus 58 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

  • dan
    dan

    "Even though it can be proven he is a fraud?"

    You keep making ridiculous claims. OK, prove he's a fraud.

  • drwtsn32
  • dan
    dan

    Look, I can post websites, too! Yay!

    http://farms.byu.edu/display.php?table=transcripts&id=48

    http://farms.byu.edu/display.php?table=transcripts&id=70

    http://farms.byu.edu/display.php?table=transcripts&id=72

    http://farms.byu.edu/display.php?table=transcripts&id=68

    http://farms.byu.edu/display.php?table=transcripts&id=69

    http://farms.byu.edu/display.php?table=transcripts&id=121

    These are a collection of talks given by a man named Hugh Nibley. He's one of the smartest men in the world. He has memorized the Bible, Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants and the Pearl of Great Price. He has made his own translation of the Bible and at ninety-two years old is still travelling around the world speaking publically. He's a lot smarter than me, so I'll let him do the talking. Let me know if you have any problems with his stuff.

  • drwtsn32
    drwtsn32

    dan, I can't read those pages without creating an account.

    But he's mormon... he may be "one of the smartest men in the [mormon] world" but I doubt I'll be impressed by it. I heard many of the "smartest men in the JW world" refute every bad thing you could say about the JWs. So what if you can find a mormon that can make excuses for Joseph Smith?

    In any case, if you are happy with your faith then that's all that matters. There is no right religion in my opinion. Do whatever feels right to you.

  • rem
    rem

    One of the smartest men in the world is a Mormon? Have we no standards anymore? LOL

    rem

  • bebu
    bebu
    He's one of the smartest men in the world. .... Let me know if you have any problems with his stuff.

    Sorry to let you in on a biiiig secret: many "scholarly" Mormons recognize Nibley's apologetics as "weak and speculative if not essentially flawed by lack of precision in reading texts and by methodological looseness". http://www.lds-mormon.com/book_of_abraham.shtml <---an LDS website. Just 'cuz BYU--and you-- toes the party line doesn't mean that others can't see the whackiness of getting 3 paragraphs from 3 individual hieroglyphs... The idiocy of insisting that Abraham's message was understood by Smith as he looked upon a document written for the funeral of an Egyptian--whose gods Israel was told to forsake. !! It's downright embarassing, and tends to put out the flames in the old burning bosom...

    Some are scratching their heads, wondering if the book should be demoted from the canon, if it can't really be what Smith claimed. (And if it ISN"T what Smith claimed, what does this imply about Smith as a prophet, I ask?)

    Dr. Stephen E. Thompson, a leading Mormon Egyptologist, admitted that an expose of the BoA is a actually the most accurate, "Written By His Own Hand on Papyrus". You can read a review of the book, find a link to a transcript of his comments, and even a link to download the book online for FREE.

    http://www.irr.org/mit/books/bhoh/bhohintr.html

    Now to tie in with this topic: The Mormon interpretation of the resurrection body of Jesus loses all of its credibility due to its founder being completely uncovered as an unabashed fraud.

    (Sorry, hoob. )

    bebu

    PS: A very good overview of the whole issue, with many of Nibley's comments thru the development of the translation, are on this web page:

    http://mcu.edu/library/abraham.htm

  • hooberus
    hooberus

    dan , I realise that you have been busy here. Please let me know when you would like to continue our discussion.

  • dan
    dan

    Use the name "maklelan", and the password "moroni". How creative.

  • bebu
    bebu

    I re-read my earlier post--and I sincerely apologize for sounding like I was coming at you with a baseball bat, dan. It wasn't intentional, believe it or not.

    bebu

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