I always had the desire to get out and be with people, to learn more than what my limited JW upbringing allowed me.
The WTBTS SUCKS BIG DONKEY DI- . . . um . . .LIPS!
by minimus 25 Replies latest jw friends
I always had the desire to get out and be with people, to learn more than what my limited JW upbringing allowed me.
The WTBTS SUCKS BIG DONKEY DI- . . . um . . .LIPS!
Safe??? No way. Under threat of armageddon etc. if I wasn't good enuff.
Under threat of being disfellowshipped if I ever got baptised.
Bugger that, I never got baptised.
The only way that I felt somewhat safe was in the thought that at least I had the answers to life's tough questions....even if I didn't like the answers!
Perhaps (not intending to 'hijack' this thread):
"Group-think" is the way of life...whatever "group" you attempt to join, whatever "group" in which you are accepted.
We all have a "safe" place, if (and really, only) in our minds.
Is the JWD db any different?
onacruise, I don't feel any safety from being here, but I'm interested in what you mean by that? Or are you saying there is a certain "group think" here, that tends to "exclude" the viewpoints of others?
I can't usually follow you genius types, but I love you guys - and I keep trying.
It was a mixed bag for me. I was always uncomfortable with the fact that the big "A' was supposedly coming and would wipe out everyone I really cared about--immediate family,etc. But I also believed that the elders would protect me in some sense and they were there for me as support if I ever really needed them--that whole "crag in the storm" mentality. Well, did I have a rude awakening when these fine shepherds turned into ravenous wolves who tried to devour me and my family. Then I got really scared--went to the Org and they turned out to be even bigger and badder wolves. Poor little red-cyber-riding hood ran and ran as fast as she could out of the dark forest and will never return there again--the end...
Seeit, first of all: "genius" is limited to a very few millisecond flashes in our entire life (if we're lucky enough to have any such flashes at all). Einstein is called a "genius," and yet he spent the last 40 years of his life in a futile attempt to develop a Grand Unified Field theory. True "genius" of the entire human existence can probably be summed up in no more than 10 minutes of typing.
Mere knowledge is not genius.
Or are you saying there is a certain "group think" here, that tends to "exclude" the viewpoints of others?
Yes, as it must be, and always has been, and will ever be, as a very natural and predictable consequence of our finite existence-being.
Sociology and ethics.
No, I was never one of those people, Minimus. And that's probably the biggest reason for my departure .. soon after I turned 18, I was gone. I didn't like being told what to think or feel or do.
Once out of the org, I briefly considered joining the military, as I thought it would be interesting to travel to new lands, meet new people, and kill them ... but I quickly realized I'd be in another organization where I was told what to wear, what to do, how to conduct myself ... screw that.
When the "group" is made to feel or think a certain way, it feels good to know that all your friends and associates see everything in the same way. It protects you. It VALIDATES you.
uhhh...."validates" you?
Maybe for some, but for others, it "excludes" you.....