I used to be heavily into the belief of aliens and ghosts. I dunno - I would love to see one I think.
Anyone ever read those UFO mags? - some pretty cool stuff on them.
belief in angels & demons, the same as extraterrestrials?
by dh 22 Replies latest jw friends
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Elsewhere
Aliens are modern man's new Demons and Spirits.
Humans seem to have a need to believe in and be a part of something superior to themselves... a lot of people don't "really" believe in spirits... but they can "buy" the idea of aliens. There are some people who go as far as to say that God is an alien.
This craving to know something superior to themselves is one of the main driving forces behind why humans will allow themselves to be dominated and controlled, be it by a religion (cult), husband, boyfriend, government, military, company, friends, etc... they are willing to accept all sorts of abuse in order to be part of something ?greater than themselves?.
Most of the people who "really" believe in aliens and abductions would in an instant gladly give up everything and everyone they know to be abducted and taken to a "superior alien civilization".... sounds a lot like the "religious" person's desire to be taken to heaven, or nirvana, or whatever their religion teaches.
UFO's, Aliens and New Age beliefs are the new religion of a modern scientific society.
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El blanko
If you can get hold of this book:
It explores this area very well indeed. I had to pay well over the odds for my own copy and it was worth every penny. Very enjoyable.
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Klaus Vollmer
hello dh,
I have the same meaning regarding this thread too. The predeluvial "angels" came down to earth and witnesses children with the women.
that is the meaning of what you are taught by WTS and others.
But I remember that there is from Jesus an utterance regarding thos who die and get resurrected. they are said to be like angels what means that they have no desire to sex.
When we think that the fallen angels desired sex and were enabled to witness a terrible race here in earth I somethimes think that they are exterresticals with a DNA that is nearly like huma DNA and permits certain developments.
Why should an angel not be a creature with a human like body only on another level of existence?
What do we know about the universe or about life? its less than the dust under your nails.
So I would not be surprised if this thinking has some relation to reality. I dont make it to be a dogma but remember the angels visiting Abraham and Lot.
perhaps you will find an answer here: www.bibledecoded.com
The LW's recognize that there were human beings before Adam.
kind regards
KV
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Mary
There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that there is life on other planets . . . none . . . ZERO. If somebody has proof, I want to know.
Here's the proof..........
Because no matter what another says, I will always believe in the Bible and God and Christ Jesus, and therefore, by default must conclude that socalled extraterrestrials are no more than demons materializing in various forms.
I believe in the bible and God and Christ Jesus too, but what does that have to do with life on other planets? If Jehovah's been around for all eternity, and if man's only been here for 6,000 years, then what was there to prevent Him from creating life on other planets long before we came around? We don't know what's out there and to be so totally dogmatic that "there can't be life on other planets", is no different than the Flat Earth Society of the Middle Ages. For some reason, the theory that perhaps the earth wasn't the center of the universe scared the shit out of the Catholic Church---it challenged their faith. Even though we have proof that the earth is NOT the center of the universe, life and religion goes on---it's no big deal.
Many people in the past refused to believe in dinasaurs because there was no mention of them in the bible. Many seem to think that if it's not mentioned in the bible---it didn't happen. Also, your argument that these "socalled extraterrestrials are no more than demons materializing in various forms" flies in the face of what the Society says. The Watchtower has long claimed that since The Flood, demons can no longer materialize, so how could these be demons?
I have no idea if there is life on other planets or not. I wouldn't be shocked if we find out one day that there is, however, I'm keeping an open mind on the subject as there's no definitive proof that every single planet out there is void of life either.
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neyank
"are angels/demons/god in fact aliens?"
At one time I would have sworn that aliens could not be angels,demons or God. But now?
I don't know.
Looking back in the OT, there are scriptures that seem to be talking about ufos.
The scripture of Abraham (I think) wrestling with God?
That one certainly raises some questions.
Angels being atracted to human females and giving up their position in Heaven to come down and have relations with them and proce offspring?
We are taught that angels are perfect spirit beings with no flesh and blood.
How did they transform themselves into beings capable of producing sperm?
And if they were perfect spiritual beings, why and how did they get turned on by humans?
That would be like us getting turned on by ants. OK. There are some ants with a good shape but they don't do anything for me.
And as far as Niburu,PX, planet X.(for those reading up on it) Revelation says Wormwood is coming. Wormwood is another name for lanet X.
Back in the days of the OT and before, people were very superstitious.
It would not be dificult to imagine them seeing beings from other places and consider them angels or even God.
As time goes on and we humans aquire more and more info about life and existance our outlook on such things will change.
Just look how our little group here has changed because of info.
Once we were JWs enslaved to the WTS selling books and swearing it was the truth.
Many of us would have gone to our graves believing that. But now?
Because of our ability to look at info and use the brains God gave us, we see what the WTS realy is and our attitudes about it have changed.
So are angels/demons/god in fact aliens?
They could be.
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Sunspot
From a completely personal viewpoint (I've never studied other planet s or their abilities to support life, etc) I cannot believe that there is an entire endless universe out there, that does not have SOME other kind of "beings" living upon them.
It just doesn't make sense to me, that THIS is all of "IT", meaning this bumbling, messed up civilization we have here today.....is the ONLY "family" out there somewhere.
Interesting thread, BTW!!!
hugs,
Annie
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shera
I always thought these "alien" sightings,are demons.
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dh
"alien" sightings,are demons.
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shera
OK Dh,point taken,I think...