Complainers are irksome, TMS for April 2004

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  • jgnat
    jgnat

    I am alternately enraged that the WTS would again lay all responsiblility for their unhappiness back on the congregation, and encouraged that there are enough vocal members for headquarters to notice. Here are some questions back to the WTS.

    • The Israealites waited 40 years for the promise. How much longer must the "other sheep" follow you before they realize they are following the wrong shepherd?
    • Moses ran a gauntlet of miracles that Pharoah could not match. Is there a similar record of miracles, (other than Miracle Wheat), that the supposed "Faithful and Discreet Slave" has demonstrated Jehovah's power?
    • If a servant provides a meal not to his master's liking, does he not have the power to send that servant back to the kitchen to get it right? How presumptuous of the Slave to claim their meal is perfect!

    TMS School Review Kingdom Ministry April 2004

    10. Why did Jehovah feed the Israelites with manna week after week, month after month, in the wilderness, and what can we learn from this? (Deut 8:16) [w02 9/1 p. 30 pars. 3-4]

    Remember the occasion back in Moses? day when some in Israel found it irksome to eat manna week after week, month after month. Evidently, that was a trial for them, even though the manna was a miraculous provision. What was the purpose of the test? Moses told them: ?[Jehovah] fed you with manna in the wilderness...in order to humble you to put you to the test.? - Deuteronomy 8:16

    Our humility could likewise be tested. How? Well, how do we react to organizational refinements? (Isaiah 60:17) Do we give wholehearted support to the preaching and teaching work? (Matthew 24:15; 28:19, 20) Do we eagerly accept the explanations of Bible truth as provided by ?the faithful and discreet slave?? (Matthew 24:45-47; Proverbs 4:18) Do we resist pressure to have the latest gadget, the latest fashion, or the newest automobile? A humble person will be able to say yes to such questions. - 1 Peter 1:14-16; 2 Peter 3:11

    15. What two inherent dangers in complaining are noted at Exodus 16:2, 3? [w93 3/15 pp. 20-1]

    (I don't have the 1993 watchtower, so I can't reference here. But I can guess.)

    Deuteronomy is quoted in part. Ah, those dreaded triple dots. What information is left out of the article? In context,

    Deut 8:15(NIV) He led you through the vast and dreadful desert, that thirsty and waterless land, with its venomous snakes and scorpions. He brought you water out of hard rock. 16 He gave you manna to eat in the desert, something your fathers had never known, to humble and to test you so that in the end it might go well with you. 17 You may say to yourself, "My power and the strength of my hands have produced this wealth for me." 18 But remember the LORD your God, for it is he who gives you the ability to produce wealth, and so confirms his covenant, which he swore to your forefathers, as it is today.

    The test was not to check the Isrealite's tolerance for monotony, but to prove to them, once and for all, that God is their source for all. Note also, that wealth is not sneered upon.

  • stillajwexelder
    stillajwexelder

    strange -- I am just in the middle of preparing the oral review in the TMS for tomorrow night and came upon this exact point -- I want to say something (if I am asked to comment - but without being too sarcastic or run the risk of having a reproof/getting the BIG D)

  • Nosferatu
    Nosferatu

    OMG, that is one of the worst comparisons I've read! Organizational changes compared to eating Manna?

    A humble person will be able to say yes to such questions.

    Humble according to who? Oh well, so what if I'm not humble. Go **** yourself, Watchtower.

  • blondie
    blondie

    As they will do, many elders used the 1993 article to put off all complaints from the rank and file. It led to some R&F going over their heads to the CO/DO or Brooklyn Bethel. This little paragraph in a non-study article was the result. (Actions speak louder than words)

    *** w97 12/1 30-1 Is All Complaining Bad? ***


    The Christian Congregation

    Should it be different among brothers within the Christian congregation? Though imperfect men and women, Christians are earnestly endeavoring to serve God in peace and unity. Yet, situations will arise among them that give cause for a measure of complaint and that call for a remedy. In the first century, a situation arose in the congregation of anointed ones shortly after Pentecost. Many newly converted Christians remained in Jerusalem for further instruction and encouragement. There was a sharing of available food supplies. However, "a murmuring arose on the part of the Greek-speaking Jews against the Hebrew-speaking Jews, because their widows were being overlooked in the daily distribution." Rather than condemn these complainers as troublemakers, the apostles took action to rectify the situation. Yes, just complaints made with due respect and in the proper spirit will be humbly listened to and acted upon by those who have oversight in the congregation.?Acts 6:1-6; 1 Peter 5:3.

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    Do we eagerly accept the explanations of Bible truth as provided by ?the faithful and discreet slave??

    Compare to:

    *** Rbi8 Galatians 1:8-9 ***

    However, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to YOU as good news something beyond what we declared to YOU as good news, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said above, I also now say again, Whoever it is that is declaring to YOU as good news something beyond what YOU accepted, let him be accursed.

    also...

    "make sure of all things; hold fast to what is fine." 1 Thessalonians 5:21.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    Hmmmm, it seems to me, exelder, that Blondie's response would be humble, direct, and properly researched. I wonder how a study leader would respond to that one?

    Nos, it is descriptions like these that makes humility a real turnoff, eh? I prefer to view humility as an honest reflection of ourselves, neither underselling our abilities, nor glossing over our faults. Kind of like how I imagine it would be like being in the presence of a perfect and loving God. I notice that great and humble men of our age, like the Dalai Lama, are unafraid to speak their mind when they see an injustice. I would rather be like him than a WT drone.

  • jgnat
    jgnat

    You know what I wish, Elsewhere? That we are providing some nice alternative meaty scriptural counsel for lurkers attending tomorrow's review.

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    Am I correct in concluding that the WTS is comparing their "spiritual food" to the manna that the Israelites ate for 40 years? Is this an admission on their part that they are serving up the exact same "food" all the time, over and over... basically going in circles causing everyone to get bored with what is being served?

  • Nosferatu
    Nosferatu
    Am I correct in concluding that the WTS is comparing their "spiritual food" to the manna that the Israelites ate for 40 years?

    I think they're just connecting the two by building their own bridges. Here, I'll do one myself:

    There once was an indoor cat who was used to shitting in kitty litter. One day, someone left the door open, and the cat escaped outside. He then happily took a shit in his master's flowerbed.

    We may find ourselves in a similar situation. How? Well, how do we react to organizational refinements? (Isaiah 60:17) Do we give wholehearted support to the preaching and teaching work? (Matthew 24:15; 28:19, 20) Do we eagerly accept the explanations of Bible truth as provided by “the faithful and discreet slave”? (Matthew 24:45-47; Proverbs 4:18) Do we resist pressure to have the latest gadget, the latest fashion, or the newest automobile? A humble person will be able to say yes to such questions. - 1 Peter 1:14-16; 2 Peter 3:11

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