I'm "Scurred"

by sandy 18 Replies latest jw experiences

  • Sassy
    Sassy

    Sandy, if there is anything I can do.. (and I DO MEAN anything), you let me know ok??

    I am wondering if your siblings that are very active will see about calling the elders (you know the committee that goes to the hospital to make sure no one gets blood).. I hope not..

    I am SURE you are going to be fine though.. Please.. let me know how things are.. can I come see you in the hospital? if that is not comfortable for you.. I am cool with that.. if you want me to call and check on you.. tell me that..

    seriously.. anything girl.. I'm here for ya.. Chris would be too.

  • blondie
    blondie
    Wondering if the hospital might put a "no visitors except family" notation on your chart?

    Well, Sandy, I had an operation for an ovarian cyst (as well as fibroids). I understand your pain; I was in the hospital 3 days before they discovered the cause (and no pain meds).

    If you want to avoid questions, I would suggest avoiding contact with the elders. If you do put on a notation, I would make it more specific, "no clergy." In my case above, it was no problem because the elders were so self-involved that no one took the time to come up.

    Otherwise, thnk ahead what you might say if asked certain questions so you aren't caught off guard.

    I know things will go well. Let us know when it is over.

    Blondie

  • Angharad
    Angharad

    ((((Sandy)))

    Hope the surgery goes well and you have a speedy recovery

  • Badger
    Badger

    (((((Sandy)))))

    I hope it goes as well as it can...I know this is terrible to go through.

    One hopes that your family would be more supportive of your life than the WTS wants them to be...

    Get Well...you ain't done yet.

  • sandy
    sandy

    Thanks everyone for your kind words.

    Sassy, I will pm you with my cell and home number and the hospital info.

    I would love for you to visit. I understand if you can't due to distance, work and other circumstances. If you can visit I assume you'll leave out x-jw in all introductions and conversations.

    My surgery is wednesday May 5th.

  • copsec
    copsec

    Sandy,

    Please don't worry. I had a cyst the size of a soda can removed from my left ovary 11 years ago and I am fine! I was a bit sick to my stomach for a couple of days afterwards but no major problems whatsover. And I imagine the surgery has come a long way since 11 years ago. You will be fine. If you have any questions, PM me.

  • sandy
    sandy

    The other day on the way to my appointment to meet my surgeon............

    I told my Mom I will probably never be a witness again.

    Here is the conversation.

    My Mom: "Have you prayed?"

    Me: No

    Mom: "Don't feel guilty about praying. I know we're not going to meetings so we feel guilty about it but you can pray."

    Me: "I don't feel guilty. ....PAUSE......... "Mom I do not think I'll ever be a witness again."

    Mom: "Why?" she asked this in a worried and kind of scared tone.

    Me: "I do not believe the Organization is the absolute truth. There is too much hypocrisy in Religion including the JWs."

    I went on to explain to her about the Child abuse scandals and I included my own case. I told her how I thought it was wrong the way the Elders handled my case. In short they DF'd my father for over-drinking not molesting me. They made that clear to my father too. He hid the sin for at least 18 years. He confessed only after I told on him.

    My mother started to babble on how he was about to be DF'd anyways for drinking too much so when the "secret" came out they Df'd him. She said this like she was defending the Elders.

    Me: "Mom, I always wondered why they DF'd my dad for drinking and not abusing me. I could never figure it out, why they had to make that clear that it wasn't for child molestation. Now I believe they handled it that way in order to hide the fact that he abused me.

    They used his drinking as an excuse. The elders are more concerned about not sullying God's name and that is why they hide these types of cases. They betrayed me and many others by not taking the appropriate action. Many others this has happened to, in their cases, they do not report it or even believe the children because they do not have two eye-witnesses.

    This scandal and cover-up reminds me of the account in the bible that talks about people burning their children in the fire in sacrafice to God. And Jehovah said something like: 'a command that never even came up into my heart.' (Can somebody tell me where that account is in the bible. I couldn?t find it and I want to read it again)

    She said to me the "elders are human" you cannot follow them.

    I said: "I know that but they are following rules that are made up by the FDS who are only human too. If I question any of them I will be labeled as apostate." (Now I am skipping some parts of the conversation)

    She went on to say that Satan is planting these doubts in my head he doesn?t want me to be close to Jehovah. Blah, blah blah......

    Then she said: "I used to have doubts too. But it is only Satan."

    I told her about the UN scandal and at first she thought I was talking about something a long time ago and she started using the "Light gets brighter" speech, using examples like, we used to celebrate Christmas, Birthdays and so on.

    I said no Mom, this is recent from 1991 (or 92') to 2001. This finally got her attention.

    She said "I never heard about that I want to see the website." (Some where in the conversation I told her I have been thinking about talking to the elders about certain things.) So she said "I want to be there if you talk to the elders, I?d like to here what they have to say."

    I know I must have got through to her about the child abuse (that is a very touchy subject for her but deep down she knows right from wrong) and the UN thing she is definitely curious about.

    Gotta go I?ll finish later. (There isn?t much more)

  • Sassy
    Sassy

    I was reading your other thread where you brought up the subject about your mom...

    I am wondering in light of your new talk with her.. if she will be suspicious of any 'new friends"?? I just don't to add any extra stress on you..

    and no matter what.. yes you are right, I would never say anything about xJW stuff at all.. never.. at any rate.. pm me.......and we'll talk.. at least if I have a phone number and last name to ask for.. I can call you and check on you.. no matter what my schedule is..

    that way I can report here also to everyone worried how you are too.. cuz you know we all LOVE YOU.

  • BluesBrother
    BluesBrother

    Firstly, Sandy , I am really sorry for what you are going through right now. It is tough , and scary but it will be ok - promise , wou will soon be right as rain.

    I am a little worried that my siblings are going to ask the Elders to visit with me to give me encouragement

    Yeah but will they want to come? It is hard enough for regular dubs to get any help from the elders let alone people like us who have not supported it for years

    Put up the "No visitors except...." notice . After all, you are just not up to it right now, are you??

    If they are the mean spirited type of elder b@#####s who can sniff a possible judicial case, they might pursue the matter later. But if your medical records are kept confidential from your family , and you just keep mum about it, they can't do a thing. Hopefully they wont even try.

    Hugs

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