Wasn't Saddam ousted for doing precisely this sort of thing?

by Simon 398 Replies latest social current

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  Simon

  Return the territory to whom? It's still UN Mandate territory, there is no Palestinian group this territory has ever been turned over to

  Well, I guess the non-existent people that Sharon wants to exclude from returning to the land they were kicked out of. Really Yeru, you are starting to become nothing more than an extremist Israeli propagandist.

  If there were no people who had been dispossessed by Israel, then why would they want to exclude them from returning? Why did they fight a war to get the land if no one was there?

  Who ever suggested that all Iraqi's were to blame for 9/11?

  That's a joke right? It's up there with "WoMD" and "imminent threat"

  When 4 Americans were brutally beaten beyond recognition, their corpes mutilated before cheering crowds, where was all this outrage from the left?

  The 4 Americans were merceneries (or enemy combatants as we now call them) and should not, IMO, have been there.

  Yes, it was a bad thing. No one was saying it was a good thing. But what do you want us to do? Bay for the blood of women and children who happen to be in the same city?

  Think of the bigger picture. You have non-army militants in a city who it appears answer to no one. Iraqi's saying they are being abused and mistreated and an intense level of anger and hatred being shown.

  Of course, the lawyers of the key solider who allegedly committed the crimes, who at 37 and with experience in maintaining prisoners, will have you believe this. Sure he's going to attempt to be absolved of any blame.

  Well, it's convenient if they were all acting alone but this still reflects as badly on the chain of command - they are untrained and undisciplined and unsupervised. What are we paying the commanders for exactly if they actually do sod all?
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  myauntfanny

  Please note that according to a CIA analyst named C Pelletierre the Kurds were killed by a gas that only the Iranians had at the time. This was known at the time of the invasion of Iraq.
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  Realist

  yeru,

  Realist,

  there is hardly any point in discussing this with people who still believe saddam was a threat to the outside world.

  Tell the Jews killed with Iraqi money that...tell the Kuwaitis that...those seven killed in the first WTC that, tell anyone murdered by the terrorists that Saddam willingly harboured he was no threat to the outside world. Realist, you live in your own little world devoid of any facts.

  well my little world consists pretty much of all the world minus the US. i am sorry but it seems it is you who is sitting in a shrinking universe not me.

  and now to something more constructive: iraq killed jews? when? are you referring to the scuds that hussein fired towards israel during the first gulf war? or the support he gave to families of killed palestinian freedom fighters?

  which terrorists did saddam willingly harbour? the ones that were sitting in the kurd controlled northern part of iraq?

  the WTC? never heard hussein was linked to that. if so please show a link.

  farki farki,

  LOL can you get any more pathetic? attacking the spelling! LOL

  if it bothers you so much maybe you prefer to converse in german or spanish?

  besides if you honestly think saddam posed an immanent threat to the world than any further discussion with you is pointless anyway.

  Great. That makes it all ok, then. ONLY 3,500 kurds and JUST sixteen years ago. Yeah. That makes it perfectly fine. Except for the 3,500 DEAD kurds. It's not just exactly fine with them. And their families and children. They're all dead, you moron. What part about "they're all DEAD" do you not understand. Does "sixteen years ago" mitigate that issue, and make the DEAD less significant as if time makes the DEAD less significant?

  what kind of argumentation is that? so 8000 killed is as bad as 3500 killed? what about 100? or 10? its all equally bad?

  secondly, do you really want to count all the killings that happened over the last 16 years? what about the bombing of panama city? to name just one out of many attrocities the US committed over the last 50 years. does that give the world the right to invade the US?

  point is, this present war was faught over alledged WMDs and whether hussein was a CURRENT threat to the world NOT about what happened 16 years ago!

  and just so that this has an educational value for you...the kurds were killed because they were in a battle zone. just like millions of civilians were killed by US bombers because they were at the wrong place at the wrong time.

  and as a side note...it is not even certain iraq killed the kurds...there is strong evidence that it was the iranians!
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  Yerusalyim

  Simon,

  The 4 Americans were merceneries (or enemy combatants as we now call them) and should not, IMO, have been there.

  You've just shown that you can NOT in ANY WAY be impartial about this...and that you have a double standard...all your posturing gets blown away...it's SOOOO horrible that the poor Iraqis were humiliated....but it's just fine to take Truck Drivers and mutilate them...your moral indignation is hollow and pointless. If I am an Israeli propogandist...you are an Arab one.
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  Yerusalyim

  Realist,

  and now to something more constructive: iraq killed jews? when? are you referring to the scuds that hussein fired towards israel during the first gulf war? or the support he gave to families of killed palestinian freedom fighters?

  People who murder a pregnant woman and her four children are NOT freedom fighters...they are terrorists.
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  Realist

  yeru,

  somehow i thought you would comment on that!

  problem is what makes a freedom fighter and what a terrorist depends largely on the side you are on.
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  Simon

  Yeru.

  I suggest you go back and re-read my words IN CONTEXT and don't just extract snippets to suit your own biased agenda.
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  crinklestein

  Isn't arguing about political decisions wonderful and uplifting?
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  Yerusalyim

  Realist,

  This is the problem with the world right now, you said.

  problem is what makes a freedom fighter and what a terrorist depends largely on the side you are on.

  No, ANYONE that intentionally targets and kills innocents, especially in this manner...is a terrorist. You've revealed what your problem is, you lack moral clarity. If you can't see the difference...then all I can do is try to feel sorry for you...PLEASE tell me you see the difference.
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  Simon

  What about people who drop bombs and blow them up due to incompetence, carelessness or just lack of common bloody sense? Are they terrorists too then Yeru?