As many of you likely know, the owner of the e-watchman website constantly charges the WTS with having committed spiritual fornication with the United Nations organization (the so-called NGO affair). I would like to ask you all a question in order to find out your opinion as to whether or not Watchman has done a near equivalent thing that he charges the WTS with having done. Most of you were probably aware that Watchman once advertised the e-watchman site on this site here (JW.com). Yes, it could be seen as a hard-to-be-overlooked flashing banner that was placed at the top-right of the page here. Something that you may not have been aware of though is exactly how that advertisement got to be there. As a result of my having inquired, I learned that it got to be there by means of Watchman's REQUEST. Yes, the owner of JW.com placed the e-watchman advertisement on this site at the request of Watchman himself. Sooooo....what we have here is ... that for the sake of gaining the benefit of having his site advertised, Watchman played ball with an "apostate" heavy; namely, the owner of the JW.com website. Think about it! Here we have Mr. Anointed himself (Watchman), accusing the WTS of having committed spiritual fornication (due to its connection with the UN as an NGO), while at the same time he himself has been playing tootsie with an "apostate" leader ... all for the sake of getting the e-watchman website off the ground and running. Do you see what I'm talking about here? Do you see Watchman as having committed a similar crime (spiritual fornication) as that which he is charging the WTS with? Just seeking your honest thoughts and opinions, if you want to express them. Schizm
Is Watchman guilty of the same "sin"?
by Schizm 60 Replies latest jw friends
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Corvin
As many of you likely know, the owner of the e-watchman website constantly charges the WTS with having committed spiritual fornication with the United Nations organization (the so-called NGO affair). I would like to ask you all a question in order to find out your opinion as to whether or not Watchman has done a near equivalent thing that he charges the WTS with having done. The Watchman's charges are true and correct. The charges are documented and cannot be disputed, explained away or excused when held up to the WTBTS's own standards. Most of you were probably aware that Watchman once advertised the e-watchman site on this site here (JW.com). Yes, it could be seen as a hard-to-be-overlooked flashing banner that was placed at the top-right of the page here. Something that you may not have been aware of though is exactly how that advertisement got to be there. As a result of my having inquired, I learned that it got to be there by means of Watchman's REQUEST. Yes, the owner of JW.com placed the e-watchman advertisement on this site at the request of Watchman himself. That is correct. An advertisement banner cannot be placed on another's site without mutual agreement between the two site owners. Duh . . . Sooooo....what we have here is ... that for the sake of gaining the benefit of having his site advertised, Watchman played ball with an "apostate" heavy; namely, the owner of the JW.com website. I would hardly call Simon "an apostate heavy". Simon is a guy just like you and I (who may or may not wear women's clothes) but the point is that I don't know my butt from a hole in the ground and even I have my own anti-JW site. It isn't brain surgery, and as intelligent and activist-like Simon may be, he is not a "heavy". He merely had a great idea, followed through and implimented it, which has benefitted many many individuals like myself. Simon, contrary to popular belief, is far from being the prodigy of Satan. Think about it! Here we have Mr. Anointed himself (Watchman), accusing the WTS of having committed spiritual fornication (due to its connection with the UN as an NGO), while at the same time he himself has been playing tootsie with an "apostate" leader ... all for the sake of getting the e-watchman website off the ground and running. Think about it! The WTBTS drew the line themselves when they joined the UN as an NGO. They set the standard for integrity then set the standard for deception and integrity-breaking when they violated everything they had for years imposed upon 6,000,000 + individuals. Many of those rules and policies have effected the breathing status of more than a few human beings. They lied and gave the old library card excuse. The WTBTS made it very clear that they would do and say whatever they had to in order to save face with their members. They, in reality offered that were no rules to play by anymore. Today, I get to be annointed if I choose to be and you, or the Society, or Jimmy Swaggart, has not the authority to say that I am not. I don't have to be accepted by a man-made organization. I can choose to believe that I am of the annointed class based on my knowledge and faith in God and his Word. Simply because the WTBTS lies, I now have license to decide for myself if I am of that heavenly hope. The can go rub a monkey. The difference between me and them is that I don't feel justified in imposing my hypocrisy and conscience on anyone else. The difference between the Organization and the Watchman is that the Watchman's proclomations do not effect anyone's oxigen intake. They, the WTBTS, in effect, gave each one of us license to question and protest, and gave many of us the real truth . . . that perhaps thousands or millions of XJW's/apostates if you will, just might not be wrong. Simon is no more an apostate than you are. Do you see what I'm talking about here? Do you see Watchman as having committed a similar crime (spiritual fornication) as that which he is charging the WTS with? The Watchman has not committed a similar crime, Schizm. Using Simon's message board to reach people with the truth about "the truth" is not the same as committing spiritual fornication with the Wild Beast. The word of the day here is "REFORM" and as far as I can tell, the Watchman has every right to call for reform from the mountain tops if he chooses. THERE ARE NO MORE RULES when it comes to the WTBTS. THEY LIE. If the WTBTS can justify their UN association, then we can excuse the annointed Watchman for using an apostate message board to help him in getting his message of truth out to thousands. I for one appreciate it.
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Schizm
Corvin,
You completely missed the point of my question!
Please try to get down off your soap box long enough to think about the questions I posed. And it wouldn't hurt if you used a smaller font. The size of font that you've chosen, you may as well just shout (use all capitals) what you say.
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Corvin
Then Schizm, your initial post was pointless.
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Corvin
Just seeking your honest thoughts and opinions, if you want to express them.
Please try to get down off your soap box long enough to think about the questions I posed.
Hey, either you want an honest thought and opinion or not. Just because your topic seems pointless to me in light of a much bigger picture, and just because you don't like what I have to say . . . you sound a bit like mother org to me.
Corvin
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ball.
Schizm, I can't help wondering what actually is the point of your post? Are you a conspiracy theorist, or are you trying in some way to validate the integrity of the ex-jw on-line community? What ever led you to make such comparisons in the first place?, are your precepts either valid or relevant anyway?
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Schizm
What I want to know is if anyone here sees the hypocrisy of Watchman's actions. He says that the WTS is guilty of spiritual fornication due to an association with a political entity (the UN), even though he himself is committing spiritual fornication by means of having an association (asking for favors) with a person he himself considers to be an "apostate" (all for the sake of getting his website advertised). How can he condemn the WTS without also having to condemn himself. Am I not making myself clear enough?
It isn't necessary for you tell me all about the NGO affair. I know all about it. That's been told so many times that it's pitiful. Try to address the point of this thread, if you would please, and not use the thread as a platform to preach the same ole worn out message all over again.
Thanks,
Schizm
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Corvin
Think about it! Here we have Mr. Anointed himself (Watchman), accusing the WTS of having committed spiritual fornication (due to its connection with the UN as an NGO), while at the same time he himself has been playing tootsie with an "apostate" leader ... all for the sake of getting the e-watchman website off the ground and running.
Schizm, you seem to have your very own soapbox. What? Are you the only one who gets to have one around here?
Corvin
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Simon
Simon is a guy just like you and I (who may or may not wear women's clothes)
I want to be called Loretta
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Corvin
What I want to know is if anyone here sees the hypocrisy of Watchman's actions.
NOOOOO, it is not hypocritical! How's that?
It only takes a child to see that the rules of what spiritual fornication is by WT standards must be thrown out the Kingdom Hall window now that the WTBTS has violated them. I can only see the Watchman's actions being justified for that reason. Are you missing my point? Why did you ask in the first place? Do you have control issues?
Corvin