by Elmer J. Fudd 12 Replies latest jw friends
Just wondering, has anyone here been cut with the WTS's axe over smoking? I was. Also I think about "over-eating" as well as "over-drinking". That's a No No, including smoking too, as far as the last "New Light" I read. All my dub sisters could pass as livestock. I assume they buy their clothes at a tent or awning store and buy their shoes at a blacksmith shop. What gives here?
Elmer
All my dub sisters could pass as livestock
That was mean.
But funny............
LOL Elmer, you just brought up a sore subject (about over eating that is) . My dad was DF'd twice for it. I am a "part time" smoker. My mother was nearly DFd while living on teh island of Guam for chewing beatlenut, but she gave it up
Chevy,
I understand "beatlenuts" are more adictive than nicotine. Good for her.
Elmer
"All my dub sisters could pass as livestock. I assume they buy their clothes at a tent or awning store and buy their shoes at a blacksmith shop."
LOL! Check this one out Elmer (and it's a true experience), one of the sisters in my book study group was so collosal that she literally could not get clothes which fit her properly. She was so fat that she could not keep her legs together when she sat down. I used to dread her sitting opposite me in the book study - it was like staring into the black pits of hell!
Anyway, one day we are out on the ministry, and this walrus sister pukes her guts up all over the householder's step! Amazingly the householder invited her inside to make sure she was ok - and guess what? She asked - not for a drink of water - but for a plate of sandwiches! I sat there, and watched her stuff 10 jumbo size cheese rolls into her flabby jowells!
Jonty
Jonty,
And I thought my post was funny! LOL!
Elmer
To be honest with thee dear sirs, it does not take a JW to realize that smoking is not wise ... does it? hmmmmm ....
(and yes I have smoked all sorts of things in my life and refrain from doing so)
My uncle got the boot when they changed the policy in the seventies.
It screwed with his life, and continues to affect him thirty years later (Having the rug pulled from under you, like that, sometimes has that effect).
It affected us, at one level, too. Suddenly we couldn't talk to our uncle anymore.
He was the most cheerful and fun guy you would want to meet, so we just didn't understand.
My mother was officially disfellowshipped for smoking, by way of a letter in the mail!!!!!!!!!!!
It is quiet a sad story. My mother was addicted to pain pills for many years due to severe migraine headaches,,,,,,,,she just kept taking the more and more, until it was everyday all day long. She was in and out of hositals over her headahces, depression, and the drug abuse .
She was a faithful witness for over 16 yrs, even thou she had a drug problem, an addiction. She went to rehab one last time to get herself off of drugs for good. It was a month long stay in the hospital and she was on a program that was to last a whole year.
Needless to say , getting off of the pills for good was very hard,,,,,,,and othere things at home were terrible, my overbearing , hypocrite elder father, was horrid to her. He had an affair with a much younger sister in our hall while my mother was in rehab!!!!!!!! I caught him !!!!!!!!!!
When Mom found out, I told her, because my dad did not show up in the family counseling or support her at all. I could never lie to my parents , when they asked me flat out to my face if something was true or not. I couldnt lie to her , even thou I wanted to....... I didnt want anything to tear her apart while she was so sick and healing.
My mom started smoking again , after 17 yrs of not smoking, she picked up the habit again.
If you have ever been to an AA meeting , Alanon, and so many of the rehabilation/ detox programs,,,,many , many of the members smoke. I guess since that is the one thing that gives them something to calm their nerves while getting off all the other stuff, it is appealing to them.
When the elders found out about my dad he was d/a , the other woman was d/f and my mom got d/f for the smoking. They never once talked to her in person, they never went to her in rehab, nothing, .. all she got was a cold and to the point letter,,,,,,,,basically she felt thrown away by everyone.
The Disfellowshipping of my Mom, caused her as much pain as losing my father did. She hated herself for being weak,,,,,,,,although she was damn strong to get off of the meds, and try to make more of her life. She felt so much guilt at what she had done,,,,,,,,,all the years on the pills and then in a few weeks of smoking she was d/f.
It was only a matter of weeks , after getting d/f for smoking that my Mother took her own life.
That was 17 years ago. I am so bitter over the JW 's doctrine ( if you can call it that) about being disfellowshipped for smoking. I my opinion it should be one of the conscience matters, not a law agaisnt it. In my opinion all things should be our own conscience , but even as a JW I didnt understand how they could dictate this rule to us.
I wonder if my Mom would not have been disfellowshipped so soon , right after rehab and still under doctors supercvision,,,,,,, if she might have had time to heal more and not see herself in such a sad and negative way. I can not say for sure that my mom killed herself because she was d/f, but I do know , from things she told me that being d/f hurt her so very much. It hurt her that no one even tried to help her.
What is wrong with those people? I can say that now that I am not one of them.... I hate myself for the things I have done in the name of that religion. I am still making amends to people for not being there for them, because it was frowned upon to have friends outside of the JW's.
I will clarify that I dont hate myself , how i am today, but I can say I hate who I was as a JW.
I will always wonder if the JW's would have judged( they dont IMO have any right to judge anyway ) my mother in a loving, caring, understanding way, if she would still be here.
Most everyone knows you don't put alot of stress, burdens on someone who is so sick, just coming out of rehab. I have thought of so many times, sueing the WT for emotional distress on behalf of my mother. I am not talking about getting money at all, but a retribution.....Iwant the JW's to be held accountable for all the lives that have been lost because of JW teachings.I would love to see it written on paper , about their responsibility of their actions.
Gesssssssh, I have seen more drunk , not accidently or occasional drunkeness, but flat out wasted JW's ,,,,,,,,even the very ones who d/f my mom for smoking were getting loaded at my house , drinking up all the wine and Crown Royal...........HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!!!!
((((Dede))))
