New BLOOD Watchtower - June 15, 2004 Issue!

by UnDisfellowshipped 102 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • jwsons
    jwsons

    So, yellowish PLASMA now is OK ?

    The simple rule is: You can only eat a Big Mac as seperately material: You can eat the bun, you can eat lettuce strips, you can eat hamburger, you can eat cheese. BUT, please remember: You CAN NOT eat those foodstuffs as a whole BIG Mac as sell in the McDonald Restaurants

    jwsons

  • Roddy
    Roddy

    Thanks Undisfellowshiped. I like your highlights of what the Legal Dept would have prefered to have seen printed in ultra fine print.

    Interesting to see that they still resort to holy intimidation and re-interpreting Scriptures.

    11 Decades ago Jehovah's Witnesses made their stand clear. For example, they supplied an article to The Journal of the American Medical Association (November 27, 1981; reprinted in How Can Blood Save Your Life? pages 27-9).* [Footnote: Published by Jehovah's Witnesses.] That article quoted from Genesis, Leviticus, and Acts. It said: "While these verses are not stated in medical terms, Witnesses view them as ruling out transfusion of whole blood, packed RBCs [red blood cells], and plasma as well as WBC [white blood cell] and platelet administration." The 2001 textbook Emergency Care, under "Composition of the Blood," stated: "The blood is made up of several components: plasma, red and white blood cells, and platelets." Thus, in line with medical facts, Witnesses refuse transfusions of whole blood or of any of its four primary components.

    It cracks me up to see they claim "Jehovah's Witnesses made the stand clear" when it has ALWAYS been the WTS ramming this stuff up the asses of faithful JWs. Funny, even when I was a faithful JW I wondered why they would talk about JWs in the third person as if they made the decisions when EVERYBODY knew that the rank and file were simply herd animals that followed behind everything the WTS says. Especially so at the district conventions and those stupid self-righteous "resolutions".

  • patio34
    patio34

    So, while JWs can accept fractions of actual blood:

    12 The medical article continued: "Witnesses' religious understanding does not absolutely prohibit the use of [fractions] such as albumin, immune globulins, and hemophiliac preparations; each Witness must decide individually if he can accept these." Since 1981, many fractions (breakdown elements derived from one of the four major components) have been isolated.

    They can't have blood products such as Hemapure because their function is similar to the function of whole blood? Am I reading this right?

    Moreover, some products may be so similar to the function of the whole component and carry on such a life-sustaining role in the body that most Christians would find them objectionable.
    Undisfellowshipped, thanks so much for posting all of this AND for highlighting and emphasizing pertinent parts of it! Pat

  • Tyre
    Tyre

    JW have a policy for not taking blood, right?

    But why still search possibility to use blood or parts of blood?

    Come on, All JW must consistent with their own blood policy?

    Advise to JW organization: STOP-searching possibility in using blood or parts of blood. Parts of Blood are still BLOOD because you are taken from Blood. Wiseman says: Searching it is willing to use it, right?

    Why don?t you take mercury or cyanide or venom? Or ink may be? Those are not parts of Blood or even Human body parts.

    It seems a dead end for JW organization with blood policy. Huh?..!! But??.. YES, It is a DEAD-END.

    Consider those below:

    • Jehovah?s Witness stake his/her life, or his/her child?s, wife or husband, on the reliability of the leader?s interpretations prohibiting blood transfusions. Now WTBS are stuck and willing to search all possibility in blood or part of blood.
    • Or, is the Society?s blood policy just another man-made medical doctrine destined for failure and reinterpretation, and now stuck and willing to search all possibility in blood or part of blood.

    I hope that all Jehovah?s Witnesses will consider the facts before making an irreversible and life-threatening decision based on someone else?s imposed and unreliable standard.

    Question for JWs: Do you still Love each of your entire Family member? Especially for the one that?s you love him/her very much.

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    : Even the plasma -- which is 90 percent water

    A formidable and mostly former poster named Gedanken (German for "truth") said several years ago that the only thing the WTS REALLY forbids anymore is the "water" in blood. God forbids humans to take water into their bodies? Right. By the way, Gedanken has a Ph.d in chemistry and is a professor who teaches it at a well-known University.

    The WTS is in deep poop and they know it. They are trying to back off the corner they've painted themselves into, and by doing so, they are forbidding their followers to take clear, pure water that comes from blood. This is what you get when you let 10th grade drop-outs decide your entire life course and religious future and more importantly, your eternal destiny.

    Farkel

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    Room 215 (how is NHK doing up there, btw? )

    : This issue is their Vietnam; for them to do a total `volte-face" on blood would trigger a maestrom of recriminations, lawsuits and mass defection; the current policy appears to be (1) pay lip service to the prohibition; (2) liberalize via the permission of the listed fractions; and (3) hold on tight with the hope that further advances in medical research will save their bacon with some sort of synthetic blood breakthrough.

    A very tenuous position, indeed. Of course just telling the truth about it would be out of the question for them. OUT OF THE QUESTION.

    Why? Because they are "lovers of truth, that's why!"

    I have a headache.

    Farkel

  • Undaunted Danny
    Undaunted Danny

    The Watchtower vs. the benevolent humanitarian RED CROSS disaster services.I can (1990) remember vividly at a congregation study of the 'blood booklet' 'learning' how the Red Cross should be listed as a fortune 500 company for the enormous profit they earn from their blood sales.

    The Watchtower leader spoke of the Red Cross 'getting the blood for free and selling it for $500.00 a pint to hospitals.Here's the real deal people.The Red Cross in my town charges the two local hospitals (2004) about $150.00 a pint/unit for blood.About $80.00 of this fee includes rigorous costly testing protocols that the RC pays for.

    The Red Cross has been BROKE since the early 1970's.

    Compared to the vast real estate holdings of the Watchtower worth billions of dollars the Red Cross director in my town tells me they live hand to mouth and are only 60 days from eviction at their agency here in Bangor Maine.

    WHO? IS REALLY SHOWING LOVE OF NEIGHBOR?

  • rocky220
    rocky220

    In the end, more people will die, thanks to the false interpretations of the Watchtower!!!!!!...rocky220

  • hawkaw
  • UnDisfellowshipped
    UnDisfellowshipped

    I thought I would post a few more Scriptures:

    2nd Corinthians 3:17: ... where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

    Galatians 5:1: S tand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage.

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