New BLOOD Watchtower - June 15, 2004 Issue!

by UnDisfellowshipped 102 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • UnDisfellowshipped
    UnDisfellowshipped

    Quotes from this 6-15-04 Watchtower Issue:

    "While these verses are not stated in medical terms, Witnesses view them as ruling out transfusion of whole blood, packed RBCs [red blood cells], and plasma as well as WBC [white blood cell] and platelet administration." The 2001 textbook Emergency Care, under "Composition of the Blood," stated: "The blood is made up of several components: plasma, red and white blood cells, and platelets." Thus, in line with medical facts, Witnesses refuse transfusions of whole blood or of any of its four primary components."

    "Jehovah's Witnesses do not accept transfusions of whole blood or of its four primary components -- plasma, red cells, white cells, and platelets."

    "Basic Stand on Blood: Unacceptable: Whole Blood: Red Cells, White Cells, Platelets, Plasma"

    "Jehovah's Witnesses hold that accepting whole blood or any of those four primary components violates God's law."

    "Jehovah's Witnesses refuse transfusions of both whole blood and its primary blood components."

    MY COMMENTS:

    Question to Ask Jehovah's Witnesses:

    Where does the Bible say that it is wrong to accept the four "primary components" of blood (Red Cells, White Cells, Platelets, and Plasma) BUT it is "up to your conscience" to accept all other components and fractions of blood?

    What makes those 4 components MORE sacred or MORE holy than the other fractions?

  • carefully faded
    carefully faded

    Undisfellowshipped, thanks for posting these articles. I totally agree with you.

    If it is wrong to accept the four major components, then how can they say it's up to your conscience to accept a part/fraction of one of the four major components.

    I seem to remember being taught that just because something is small and seems insignificant, if it is a part of something that is wrong . . . our "christian conscience" would want no part of it! For example: a "christian" wouldn't work in a grocery store that sold cigarettes; or we wouldn't want to work for a government agency that made weapons; or we wouldn't want to accept other work in lieu of fighting in a war because it is, however seemingly unrelated, still supporting the war.

    I can't believe their reasoning and how they just write the rules to support their stories. The sad part is so many people have suffered and died from this insanity!

    CF

  • LyinEyes
    LyinEyes

    Well, that is just as clear as mud now huh????/

    Could the WTBS, be anymore full of themselves??

    When I was an active JW, I never could wrap my mind and logical thinking on the blood issue.

    It was plain and simple to me,, if God said do not use blood, don't eat it , don't swim in it, whatever,,,,then you don't decide for yourself what fraction of it you want to take if you need it.

    I could never understand how in the world they came up with "it's conscience matter" of using fractions of it. I can see it still doesnt make sense and is as Penn & Teller would say........BULL@#$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • gumby
    gumby
    "Rightly Value Your Gift of Life"

    Yes....let yourself die and show how much you value your life. Makes sense to me.

    God views a man's blood as standing for his life. The Creator gives the person life, and no one should take that life, represented by blood.

    Here the WTBTS admits blood is a SYMBOL of life......yet they have made the symbol, GREATER than life itself. Remarkable! Let yourself die to show your loyalty to the symbol of life.

    and no one should take that life, represented by blood.

    But take your life by refusing a transfusion anyway. Damn.....their good!

    Gumby

  • Ciara
    Ciara

    I agree with you lyineyes this "logic" has always been clear as mud to me too.

    The GB takes a hardass view on everything else but on this they cloud up everything by making some things okay, some things taboo, some things concientious(sp?)matters...

    I don't understand-why do they try to confuse this so much??

  • bebu
    bebu

    Someone commented on another blood thread recently--I think it was Mary's comment--that the blood in question was from a DEAD ANIMAL.

    Transfusions come from living people; there is no death (or sacrifice) involved in a blood transfusion!!... and so all their logic is absurd from the get-go.

    bebu

  • run dont walk
    run dont walk
    I could never understand how in the world they came up with "it's conscience matter"

    i agree,

    it's a conscience matter, but if you decide to take it, do not stumble those who are weak

    now , could someone explain that to me in english, what the hell is that suppose to mean

  • Black Sheep
    Black Sheep
    it's a conscience matter, but if you decide to take it, do not stumble those who are weak

    You cannot use your own conscience, your decision must be dictated by the most restrictive conscience in your Congregation.

  • Cheetos
    Cheetos

    I am a Jehovah's Witness and I want to thank all of the non-Jehovah's Witness's for their blood that they kindly gave to us all, so we could use their blood fractions for medical science and for saving my life in the past as I have Factor Five Leidens cloting condition. Because of the use of blood, doctors would never have known of the this condition that takes so many lifes.

  • El blanko
    El blanko
    I don't understand-why do they try to confuse this so much??

    Good question.

    Intellectual posturing maybe over an area of scripture that makes little sense when applied to the preserving of life using contemporary medical practise?

    Or, tiptoeing around a very difficult and emotive issue, attempting to please everybody and in reality only creating more confusion and frustration?

    Can't decide.

    It should either be a clear cut:- yes - you can use blood for medical purposes OR no - you are not to touch the vile wicked fluid. That would cut down on exhaustive and drawn out articles of this nature.

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