The Blame Game

by Xena 22 Replies latest jw friends

  • pratt1
    pratt1

    I that as an adult you must take reponsibilty for your actions. A bad childhood is no excuse to make bad or unwise choices in life as an adult.

    However, I do blame an organization that continues to mislead and lie to its followers.

    In particular it bothers me that so many young children are being raised by parents who sheeply follow the advice of Men in Bethel and ignore the well being of there children.

    God forbid that one of these kids is an independant thinker and decides to make a lif choice different form their parents teaching.

    Gone family and friends - Most importantly gone Unconditional Love.

  • Mary
    Mary

    I blame Simon and the rest of you for turning me into an apostate.

  • frenchbabyface
    frenchbabyface

    Badger ... Big !

    Well ... in case you want the true true truth, I went from depression to bliss to drepression, to bliss ... and the rollercoster gave me some adrenaline, it happen that I like it sometimes but geez not too much (I just saved my ass at the end/for now - and happy with that) ... At least it is not the beginning of the end, I want to believe it is the end of the beginning (does that change anything ? ).

    (and congrats Badger ... about something a read a few month ago)

    Nice to be around all of you !

  • frankiespeakin
    frankiespeakin

    FBF,

    Please explain:

    At least it is not the beginning of the end, I want to believe it is the end of the beginning (does that change anything ? ).
    And I would just like to say as well: "welcome back",,we had some nice discussion before,,BTW,,I kicked jehovah's mythical ass. Just testing to see if you remember.
  • frenchbabyface
    frenchbabyface

    Frankies ... Of course I do ... I knew the Frankies politician (I'm just glad that I was not alone to fight this one), and now I've got Frankies the Gentleman (thank you) nothing to fight against here ...

    Explain : OoOooooOOOOooooh ... well I guess I wanted to say that what had to do and understand is done and understood. And that the next step is yet to come (Or I'll kick my own ass).

  • Sassy
    Sassy

    We missed you French!!!

    as for blame.. I know that some resides with that tools and thought we were given that were out of our control, so being mislead does account for something...... HOWEVER, we also have our own tools to do something about our lives once we know the truth. Holding blame in and letting it control our lives or keep an negative impact on us.. is not healthy.. at least for me

  • ApagaLaLuz
    ApagaLaLuz

    I dont blame my parents, my family, the people who studied with them. I dont blame myself, or many of the Elders I knew with genuinely pure intentions. After reading just the little bit of Crisis of Conscience that I have, I blame the Governing Body who insist on Playing God over the lives of ignorant people.

  • Englishman
    Englishman

    It's good to know why we feel the way that we do. So that does require some looking back and releasing old worn-out feelings that are no longer of any use to us.

    The danger, IMHO, is in becoming obsessed with our own obsessions.

    As I've got older I've realised that life is what you make it. If you blame others then you're helpless and can't make changes.

    I don't believe in blame any more.

    What I do believe in is in taking responsibilty for where we find ourselves. This gives us our power for life.

    Englishman.

  • frenchbabyface
    frenchbabyface

    I missed you too Sassy (I was used to the neck)

  • Xena
    Xena

    Fleur,

    I agree that most people who are raised in a cult have limited acountability up to a certain age. I just wonder at what age would you consider someone in a cult accountable for say murder? You see the suicide bombers who are 12...I don't consider them accountable for their actions because they are IMHO coerced into this by adults....but 16...18...what is the age where you feel that the person SHOULD know something like this is wrong?

    Six,

    Is anyone truely innocent?

    Mary,

    Adam was quite the blame shifter, wasn't he??? lol course Eve wasn't any better, she blamed the talking snake

    five-crew,

    Accountability seems to be a hard thing for people. I for one enjoy growing and learning new things instead of wallowing in self-pity, blaming everyone else for choices I made. Where would the world be if no one was to blame for anything?

    It does seem amazingly hard for some people doesn't it? I have to admit I have been quilty from time to time of blaming others for my bad choices...it's so much easier than saying "yea I screwed up". You sound like you have a really good take on life

    dh,

    i was born a jw, my parents still are, it wasn't great but i do not blame them at all, they thought what they were doing is right, it wasn't, but so what, we all make mistakes

    I think most parents do the best they can for their kids...I'm hoping my kid cuts me some slack for the mistakes I am probably making!

    sure there are victims out there who are within their rights to blame, victims of abuse etc, i cannot speak about that much because it never happened to me, if i was abused i would probably blame and be full of hate, but for different reasons than now.

    That brings up an interesting question in my mind anyway...are victums of abuse less accountable if they continue the chain of abuse? At what point are they accountable for their actions? Are they less accountable than say someone who was never abused who commits abuse?

    Jankyn,

    You know, as much as I dislike JW doctrine, I must say that there's one thing I did learn from them that I believe has been worthwhile, and that's the importance of following your conscience, no matter what others are doing, no matter what the consequences. It just took me awhile to find my own conscience, as opposed to the rigid set of man-made rules they raised me with.

    Good point...lol I certainly have a thicker skin and no issues about doing what I think is right even if it isn't popular ...only now I tend to make more informed choices, as I am sure do you!

    Badger,

    Repeat after me..."I am responsible for my own happiness"

    pratt1,

    A bad childhood is no excuse to make bad or unwise choices in life as an adult.
    God forbid that one of these kids is an independant thinker and decides to make a lif choice different form their parents teaching.

    Those statements seem to cancel each other out...if you are never taught to think independantly...to question...then do you lose some element of responsibilty to make choices independantly?

    Sassy,

    as for blame.. I know that some resides with that tools and thought we were given that were out of our control, so being mislead does account for something...... HOWEVER, we also have our own tools to do something about our lives once we know the truth. Holding blame in and letting it control our lives or keep an negative impact on us..

    What if you never learn the truth, does that cancel out accountablity for your actions? Are JW's who don't know any better now accountable for the shunning they do or with holding blood transfusions from their children?

    Chevy,

    I blame the Governing Body who insist on Playing God over the lives of ignorant people.

    So do we have no accountability then for allowing them to play these games with us?

    E-man,

    As I've got older I've realised that life is what you make it. If you blame others then you're helpless and can't make changes.

    I don't believe in blame any more.

    What I do believe in is in taking responsibilty for where we find ourselves. This gives us our power for life.

    Good philosophy and one I try to live by....(key word is TRY )

    sorry it took me so long to respond to this thread...

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