The WTBTS is easy to join, but pure hell to get out.
I couldn't have said it better myself
by SuperMommy 17 Replies latest jw friends
The WTBTS is easy to join, but pure hell to get out.
I couldn't have said it better myself
The Witness recruiting system is an enmeshment plan. They enmesh themselves into your business life, your social life, your family life, your sexual life, your past, your future, your world outlook, and your health management life. Nothing is exempt from their micro infection and their micro management.
Resistance is seen as lacking a good heart condition and a form of rebellion against God. :-)
I am happy to see you have escaped the years of misery some of us endured. GaryB
The Way I See it http://www.freeminds.org/buss/buss.htm
man I feel for you on this one..
I am sure at first they will try to get him for help to be around and perhaps pursuade you to study again..
but if you are just pleasant to them and don't discuss religion.. you should be ok.. they'll give up eventually
Are these JW's paying your husband to work for them? Or is it the usual case of latching on to someone and getting work done "free"? Be careful about that. Even if the work is paid, the aggravation may negate the value of the money. You might be able to reason on it this way: you lived without the work before you met the Witnesses, you can live without it again. Speaking from collective experience here, the work will more than likely dry up when they see that neither of you are interested in "The Truth".
Hi, Supermommy. I agree that JWs try to enmesh themselves into your life. It may be best just to cut these business ties. As Nina said, you lived without the work before you met the JWs, you can do it again.
Your husband may not see the danger because they are being nice to him now and not telling him the whole story of their doctrines/policies.
Reporting child sexual abuse
Blood transfusions
Non-JWs will die at Armageddon (all 6.5 billion, including children)
Organ transplant flipflop (up till 1967 okay, 1967-1980 forbidden, disfellowshipping offense, 1980 to now, individual choice)
I would ask him why they should be talking to him about your personal religious beliefs.
Run Supermommy and take him with you.
Blondie
What to do now?
A couple things:
1. Accept our congratulations on your exit-in-progress. It was only going to get worse. Can you imagine just how difficult some people find their exit, when they have to deal with long-term relationships, heavily intertwined business relationships, and close relatives that will disown them?
2. Go back to your earlier thread and read the advice again, you remember, the advice that you thought was too confrontative, perhaps even rude. These people will use your financial situation against you if they can. Sounds like its time to get confrontative, perhaps even rude.
Yes, I do Yahoo....flsupermommy...I have been in the religion forum a few times...ussually get overwhelmed chatting. The kids need too much attention for me to sit at one time and chat for more than a few minutes.
If you really don't want any contact with their calls, how about writing a letter to the Presiding Overseer of the congregation? Let him know about the situation and ask him to tell his members to stop calling you or your husband. And put a sign at the door saying, "NO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, PLEASE".
I remember when I was a jw and going door to door, whenever we saw that sign, we didn't bother the household.
Yes, supermommy, you must be resolute and absolute. They will not stop until you make it firm. They will keep coming and coming and coming as long as they think they have an opening. It sounds like your husband is a nice guy and they see an opening to get in through him. It is also your husband who must tell them to stop since it is he they are targeting now.
My middle daughter, Nancy, age 15, was studying with an older sister, Carol. Nancy came to me and said that she no longer wanted to continue the study and wanted to tell Carol at the next study. I said, "OK, what has brought you to this point?" She told me it creeped her out how that Caral at the last study, kept overstating how important it was for her to stay close to the organization, over and over again. The over-emphasis made her suspicious and leary and many of the things I had told her started to make sense. The only reason why Carol did not continue to pressure Nancy is because I kept showing my face, and Carol will not try to go through me because I now have a reputation of getting in JW faces and getting my point across.
Be firm, and direct. If they start asking you questions, take control of the situation by asking all the questions . He/she who asks the questions has control of the conversation . What do I mean by this? If they ask you a question, simply pick your topic and shoot a question right back at them: What is the Wild Beast? How are we to view the Wild Beast according to the WT? What about the UN membership thing? What can you tell me about that? How does the GB rationalize this? You will have them running before you know it, but keep control of the situation by asking all the questions . . . it's an old salesman's trick and it works. To be forewarned is to be forearmed, so share this with your hubby too.
Good luck to you both and keep us posted as to what is going on.
Corvin