Report: U.S. Mistakenly fires on Wedding Party in Iraq (page 6)

Simon

The US had solid reasons to go to war.

Yeru. Please make sure you post in the correct forum. This should obviously have gone into "jokes and humour"

ThiChi

Simom: LOL.......good one.....However, Yer is correct!!

Yerusalyim

Simon,

Shouldn't you be posting in the Conspiracy/Fantasy forum?

Realist

yeru,

i am rather be called a coward than being someone who supports the killing of innocent people.

by the way....what gives the US the right to have the same weapons they claim hussein was habouring?

this is truly crotesque...starting a war for WMDs and at the same time producing new nukes that can be actually used thereby violating every weapon treaty ever signed. if thats not screaming hypocrisy what is???

frenchbabyface

Shouldn't you be posting in the Conspiracy/Fantasy forum?

At least the conspiracy theorie does not denie the facts Yeru !

heathen

Realist --- That's so true . These people continue to improve the nuclear arsenal that cannot be deemed neccessary or even humane should some sort of counter strike be needed somewhere , I don't think the answer should ever be to respond with that kind of destructive power that can render large amounts of earth uninhabitable for thousands of years and kill millions of people at the push of a button. I am all for a ban on even the testing of such weapons . As far as I know the Iraqi government stated that they were interested in nuclear power plants but somehow the US decided it was about arms .

frenchbabyface --- You are so sweet I could eat you up like a crepe suzette . LOL You are right tho , conspiracy theorists always use the facts and try to fill in the blanks with various types of reasonings that provide potential answers to the unexplainable.

edited to add--- I also agree with six . I think if women and children die on account of cruel actions by the military we are obligated to speak out against such things . I was watching John Stewart the other night where they did a spoof report on the torture of the prisoners and at the end they said that US wants the Iraqis to believe that we always have good intentions and not to judge us by our actions . Any way it was funny how they did it .

SixofNine

i am rather be called a coward than being someone who supports the killing of innocent people.

I think all the posturing tough boys of the forum were just showed what a real man sounds like.

Richie

Yesterday (May 20, 2004), A group of American soldiers opened fire on what is being described as an Iraqi wedding party close to the Syrian border. Quite a few Iraqi men, women and children were wounded and killed. I'd give a number count, but of what purpose, since the Arabs like to inflate numbers to suit their propaganda needs. Remember the Jenin massacre that never happened?

As it turns out according to the Iraqis, the Americans mistook celebratory gunfire for hostile fire. How stupid of the Americans. Doesn't everyone know that the way to celebrate a happy occasion like a wedding, is to fire your AK47 into the air?

The American version of the story is somewhat different. According to the Americans, there were a group of armed Syrian fighters amongst the celebrating wedding party. But the Americans didn't know anything about a wedding. All the Americans knew, was that there were armed insurgents they were tracking who were firing their guns. As a result, "innocent" people died.

The other day, Israel killed and wounded several Palestinian demonstrators in Gaza. There too it was "innocent" people who died while expressing their freedom to demonstrate. But like the group in Iraq, amongst them were armed combatants.

As a side-bar: The Palestinians are only free to demonstrate against Israel or the West. Let them try to demonstrate against Arafat or Hamas, and you'd see some crowd control Palestinian style. The Arab fighters are famous for using ambulances, women, children and Mosques to hide behind as shields. Nonetheless, when an "innocent" Arab bystander gets hurt or killed while in the presence of armed combatants, the international outrage is inevitable.
TOUGH! The Leftists are always quick to search out their famous root cause. How about being with armed thugs could get you killed? Isn't that a pretty good root cause?

Another Arab/Moslem issue that bothers me is the plethora of holy cities; The Catholics have the Vatican, which is more of a tiny sovereign territory than a city. The Protestants have the Archdiocese of Canterbury, which is more of a building than a city. The Sikhs have the Golden Temple in Amristar, which is also a building. The Buddhists have Jokhang Temple in Lhasa Tibet, yet another building. And the Jews have the Wailing Wall of the Second Temple in Jerusalem. A wall.

But for Moslems, it seems that every other city is holy. I mention this only because the Americans and Israelis are always raked over the coals for attacking their enemies who hide and organize in holy cities. Why can't the news networks just say that US forces are fighting in the city of Karbala, or the city of Najaf, without the prefix HOLY. Somehow, designating the city as holy puts the good-guys at a definite public relations disadvantage. Who wants to be seen attacking something holy? A city no less.

I also find it disconcerting when the media report with a hint of outrage, when American forces fire on a Mosque, even in self-defense, as if the Mosque should be absolutely hands-off, when the building is used as a military or terrorist staging ground.

The Westernized democracies should stop judging the actions of our troops in the Middle East by our civilized standards and sense of fair-play, since those are absolutely foreign concepts to the Arab Middle East. The Arabs want us to play by our rules, while they play by their own.

A fair comparison would be telling two fighters in a boxing ring: You, the small and weak guy. You don't have to wear gloves, and you're allowed to punch, kick, bite, gouge and hit below the belt. And to the other guy in the ring who is the best of all fighters: You better abide by all the rules or you'll be disqualified. That's what the West is up against in the Arab world. What makes it even worse, is that the Arabs have eager accomplices in the Western Media, the EU, the UN, and the civil rights groups like Amnesty International.

Just today (May 21, 2004) on CNN's noon hour Wolf Blitzer show, Blitzer was interviewing James Zogby, President of the Arab American Institute along with a British correspondent whose name I don't know. Zogby said that America must do more than just apologize to the Arab world in reference to the Iraqi prisoner abuse. America needs to apologize to Americans as well, AND THEN DO MORE! What more he didn't say.

But the British guest made an interesting point. How come the USA must apologize until the cows come home for the actions of a few, while the Saudis never apologized for the actions of many in regards to 9/11? Zogby's response was classic. THERE'S NO COMPARISON. He was right. There is no comparison. Americans never slaughtered 3,000 innocent people in a terrorist attack, and then blamed the Israelis as the Saudi royal family did.

I sincerely hope the Americans are making arrangements to move out of Iraq the day the Iraqis assume control of their own country on June 30, 2004. That day will be a reason for America to celebrate: without the gunfire.

Richie :*)

Realist

since the Arabs like to inflate numbers to suit their propaganda needs

something the other would never do of course! LOL

Report: U.S. Mistakenly fires on Wedding Party in Iraq

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