Mom Says She Probably Won't Go To Daughter's Wedding If Off Pioneer List (page 3)

sunshineToo

The bottom line is that these programmed JWs are battling their "Bible-trained consciences".

You mean, "Pseudo-Bible-Brain-Washed consciences"?

I think that maybe that is your mom's own decision. Not based on the Bible, or JW teachings. People are encouraged to follow their own concious in matters. What might bother one person may not bother another.

Gidgetgirl.

avishai

My mother told me the other day that if push came to shove, she probably wouldn't go to my daughter's wedding if she knew she would be removed as a Regular Pioneer.

Well, my grandmothers have been removed as "Regular grandma" and great grandma to my daughter, who they've never seen for pulling this kinda shit.

minimus

Gidgetgirl, JWs follow their consciences because of how they are trained.

gidgetgirl

True.

but here is an example. I have never stopped talking to my cousins who are disfellowshipped. But my uncle did not talk to me when i was dis associated. My mom never stopped talking to me. And I did not live with her after I got diassociated. But my uncle does not talk to his kids. So It is a matter of concious. When my cousin Ian got married to his wife, his sisters (who are disfellowshipped)were at the wedding, but did not go to the reception. If an elder is going to your daughters wedding, then it is not against his concious( i cant spell). I do not know what your mom's hang up would be, but its her, not Jehovah's people. If that were the case, the Elder would not be there. When one of my cousins got married to a non believer, they just couldnt get married at the hall. But everyone from the hall went. Just like a young man who married his girlfriend at this hall, everyone went. So i really think your mom just has her concious struggles. Maybe the elder who is going could talk to her?

thanks for reading all this.

Gidgetgirl

Odrade

Gidgetgirl, did you notice that the grandmother was planning to go to the wedding before the elders told her she would be taken off the pioneer roles for attending? Who's conscience is that, grandma's or elders'? Seems to me her compliance is not out of conscience, but rather out of fear of being "demoted."

I'm sure Min will correct me if that take is way off base...

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minimus

Odrade, you are right on! "Conscience" only comes into play when the leadership tells you you should question yourself suddenly. If the WT. said "be kind to those disfellowshipped and treat them lovingly", all JWs would shift their attitudes toward how they treat df'd ones. But if JWs are told to "tighten up" their viewpoints and be strict toward how they treat df'd ones, now, people's "consciences" would impel them to view things differently. Why???? Because "mother" now says so.

seeitallclearlynow

I'm sorry to hear it Minimus. Title more important than family love.

Gordy

My Eldest son and I are both DA'd JW's and now Christians.

He is getting married in February next year. The wedding will be in a Pentecostal church.

His JW mother and two JW sisters have said they will not attend.

He is the first of our children to get married.

Mom Says She Probably Won't Go To Daughter's Wedding If Off Pioneer List

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