New Zealand Changes Sexual Consent Law to Age 12

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  • Yizuman
    Yizuman

    Source: http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/sundaystartimes/0,2106,2916359a6005,00.html

    Sex at age 12 okay under law change

    23 May 2004

    By OSKAR ALLEY

    Sex between children as young as 12 will be allowed under a shock law change, horrifying teen pregnancy experts, educators and counsellors.

    The Crimes Amendment (No 2) Bill is designed to repeal our outdated sex laws but critics are furious at a new section that would allow sex between teenage couples.

    The new law would decriminalise consensual sex for children as young as 12, provided their partner is no more than two years older than them. It would allow a girl as young as 12, and a boy aged 12-14, to have sex with impunity. Parents and police would be powerless to act if the relationship was not condoned.

    The change would give New Zealand the dubious reputation of having the most liberal stance on sex in the developed world. Most western countries set the age of consent at 16, except France where it is 15.

    Critics say the new law would send the wrong message to children, with New Zealand already ranked third in the world for teenage pregnancies.

    They don't accept 12-year-olds are capable of understanding the consequences of sexual experimentation.

    The bill, which passed its first reading in March and is now before the law and order select committee, updates laws regarding sex crimes that were passed in 1961.

    National MP and committee member Tony Ryall said the new clause should be scrapped and accused the government of being out of touch.

    "In the week that the prime minister met the Pope they're trying to force through their own liberal values on a community that never asked them to do this," he said.

    "The law is clear and simple, sex under 16 is wrong. This is state-sanctioned promiscuity."

    But Justice Minister Phil Goff was unrepentant, saying the situation risked turning teenagers into criminals and must be changed.

    "We're not condoning sex under 16 but we're saying we recognise it's a reality.

    "If we were fastidious about prosecuting we'd be locking up thousands of teenagers and I don't think anybody in society would say that's a good response to the problem."

    Goff said the new law toughened penalties on "predatory" actions against anyone aged under 16, removed time limits on prosecuting such offences and introduced gender equality, allowing prosecutions against women who had sex with underage males.

    Goff said teenagers' consensual sexual experimentation should not be a crime. Police were currently "turning a blind eye" to such actions.

    Asked if our already high teen pregnancy rate would increase, Goff said: "It's not going to add to it because it's not going to change what's already happening."

    Fraser High School principal Martin Elliott said he was flabbergasted at the "absolutely bloody bizarre" idea of younger sex.

    "I'm just blown away by the stupidity of it," he said.

    "The hypocrisy never ceases to amaze me. The drinking age is 18 but they're saying a 12-year-old can have consensual sex and create a new life.

    "Is it any wonder that our young people are so dysfunctional and damaged when they have to deal in a world where adults are making such crazy rules and laws."

    The Hamilton school, dubbed the capital of New Zealand's teen pregnancies, has a dedicated teen parenting unit where 23 young mums bring their babies to class.

    Elliott said Goff should be vilified for the law change.

    "He deserves a lobotomy. It's a pity his mother and father didn't abstain from sex full time.

    "So often it's the lawmakers who are the real danger to society, not the teenagers who have to abide by the laws. It's idiocy."

    The bill's contentious younger sex age has found support among some doctors and sexual health experts.

    Doctors for Sexual Abuse Care executive member Carol Shand told the committee last week the current law risked turning teenagers into criminals.

    "I would agree that 12 is too young to be sexually active - but many of them are," she said.

    Shand, a Wellington GP and an abortion provider, said teens with "urges who wanted to experiment" ignored the current law, which was nearly impossible to police.

    Auckland sexual abuse Help foundation clinical manager and psychologist Kathryn McPhillips said lower age sex laws were a step in the wrong direction.

  • Ciara
    Ciara

    That is horrible!!! 12 !?!

    Ciara

  • Yizuman
    Yizuman

    Yes it is, I am sickened by the way the New Zealand legislators have dealt with this new law. After doing some digging around about this, I came across this website showing various age laws from around the world... http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm Interesting read, but still sickening..... Yiz

  • Golf
    Golf

    Obscene!

    Guest 77

  • Stephanus
    Stephanus
    We all know that plenty of kids break the law about underage drinking, so why don't they just lower the legal drinking age too?

    They just did; it wasn't so long ago that NZ lowered the drinking age from 21 to 18 (bringing them in line with us across the Tasman Sea). However, I'm having a waaaaaaay hard time reconciling that particular change with this one! It's not one of Labour's better thought-out social policies, IMHO!

  • XQsThaiPoes
    XQsThaiPoes

    I know I have to do reading but I think this is harmless. Also the world population needs desprately more births to support the worlds future. New Zealand should offer birth control and the A word. Teen pregnancy is relatively inert if the support structure is there. I guess the real problem is that most people have the idea that even if you don't have a god "morals" are good. So a pregnant 12 year old is "immoral". When technically it is just a force of nature.

    Also I may be wrong but new zealand has the highest atheist population in the world.

  • willy_think
  • donkey
    donkey

    Did the sheep vote for this?

  • blondie
    blondie
    The bill, which passed its first reading in March and is now before the law and order select committee, updates laws regarding sex crimes that were passed in 1961.

    It doesn't look like the law has passed yet. Why not e-mail the NZ lawmakers and let them know what people from other countries think of this?

    Here's the link to the newspaper feedback portion of this article.

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/sundaystartimes/0,2106,2035634a4621,00.html

    Tony Ryall (against law)

    http://www.tonyryall.co.nz/

    [email protected]

    Phil Goff (for law)

    http://www.beehive.govt.nz/Minister.cfm?MinisterID=38

    Email: [email protected]
    Phone: 04 470 6553
    Fax: 04 495 8444

    Carol Shand, Doctors for Sexual Abuse Care (for law)

    http://www.dsac.org.nz/

    Other Ministers

    http://www.beehive.govt.nz/ministerlist.cfm

  • talesin
    talesin

    I don't think it's a good idea for kids this young to be having intercourse, but the law does not condone or give permission for adults to have sex with children. Note:

    The new law would decriminalise consensual sex for children as young as 12, provided their partner is no more than two years older than them.

    This would prevent a 17 year old going to prison for having consensual sex with his/her 15 year old partner, but would still allow for an adult to be charged with sexual abuse of a minor.

    Just wanted to point that out.

    talesin

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