Let's face it. The main reason to be a JW is the feeling of belonging.

by new light 19 Replies latest jw friends

  • mouthy
    mouthy

    That was not my reason.
    I came from England at 19 yrs of age with a 6 month old baby( war bride) Found my hubby was a drinker .... & because I used to swear, etc:etc:( all the things we COULD do as free folks but SHOULDNT) I had done em all.

    So when they knocked at my door & taught me I could be forgiven a multitude of sin if I worked for Jehovah .....I wanted to ( after they taught me who he was....)

    Before I was a JW I had loads of friends - I was invited to all places cos I could tell the dirtiest jokes, etc>

    But when I learned the "troof" I changed!!!! I became self rightous, didnt swear anymore stopped smoking, worked hard in service - fanatic !!!!( Worse than i am now).

    But I was NOT Grace anymore !!! I became a robot ...I said , did, ALL I was told to do.THANK GOD I am free -- from the LIE!!!!! Of Jehovahs Witnesses- but free in Christ

  • garybuss
    garybuss



    I was raised as a child of Witnesses, so I agreed with everything by inculcation. I got my approval from my parents by appearing to be a miniature adult and conforming to the latest directions issued by the Watch Tower Publishing Corporation. Our family reunions were held in the isles at Watch Tower Publishing Corporation sponsored conventions. Our weekends were all recruiting and fund raising and meetings.

    I didn't like being a Witness from my first night meeting or from the first day I had to go to school with a note for the teacher explaining I could not salute the flag. It wasn't until my 20's that I even thought of escaping from it all. When the Publishing Corporation issued end time expectations for 1975, I saw that as the end for me. I thought I would be murdered by god and it would be all over. I looked forward to it.

    When I saw the year text for 1974 I knew in my gut the Corporation did not believe their own hype. I went from believing it all to not believing anything the Watch Tower Corporation wrote.

    As a Witness I got all my needs met by being a Witness. I never understood the doctrines and I thought there was something wrong with me because it seemed to me like everybody else understood everything. It never occurred to me that there might be something wrong with the teachings until AFTER I left.

    I knew in my gut there was something big wrong but I just never looked into it. After I was belly pushed at an assembly and after I was drug into the back room at the Kingdom Hall and took an ass chewing for not wearing a neck tie, I just quit. It was tough to attend and now after I do attend I get treated rough, it was just not worth it. They made it easy for me to not want to be a Witness.

    My theory is that most Witnesses are social members. Few, if any, are loyal to the teachings. I don't know of any. My dad was baptized in 1935 and there is nothing at all taught now that was taught then. Every single thing has changed but he is loyal. Loyal to what? The people are different. The teachings are ALL different. The buildings are different. Jehovah's Witnesses are no longer associated with the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society.

    The only things that remained the same are the rituals, meetings, service, study. The context looks the same. There are still people in meetings, they still have the exclusive attitude, they still refuse modern medical treatment, they still hate other religions, they still (say they) hate governments, and they are still waiting for the promised reward.

    I think mostly they are Witnesses because they are getting social as well as ego rewards. GaryB


  • Corvin
    Corvin
    Don't you agree? The doctrine part has its appeal for some people, but most join and stay because it feels good to belong to something larger than yourself.

    I do agree somewhat. It is so good, however, to wake up one day and realize you are larger than the organization and they can no longer influence so many aspects of breathing.

    [edited to say] On second thought, I now belong to this board . . . hmm . . . I just might need a 12-step group to help me stop being a part of groups.

    Corvin

  • Undaunted Danny
    Undaunted Danny

    "LOVE BOMBING"

    HOW DO CULTS SEDUCE THEIR PREY ? A tactic used most often is the "LOVE BOMBING"...They swarm over you in a sort of ,"COCOONMENT".

    All of a sudden,,you have,,INSTANT FAMILY,,INSTANT PURPOSE,,INSTANT COMMUNITY,,INSTANT FRIENDS.....And you don't have to look inside yourself for answers anymore,,.. because cult leaders, or their designated high disciples,,dispense all your spiritual needs..

    A mass delusion,,mass hysteria,,operating under the illusion of a master plan...In military jargon this is known as ,"Cluster F**k"...

    Beware of Love Bombing.... Leonard Brenner Love-bombing is characteristic of most cults. Prospects, recruits and members are drowned in a sea of love and caring. http://www.cosmicfool.com/discussion/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000011. html

    It's the 'Invasion of the body snatchers'. Afraid The watchtower has 'cocooned' my 'alienated' family in the cult mind-control, psychopath ,"pods".

  • sf
    sf

    Golf...{{{hugs}}}

    Respectfully I say to you....marriage is a cult(ure).

    It's good to see you.

    Take a peek at my thread in adult section (unrelated to this topic).

    sKally, at one with herSELF klass

  • new light
    new light

    Mouthy: Way to go! You live by your conscience, not by a need to please others.

    Gary: You hit the nail on the head again. The WT does issue rewards for acceptable behavior patterns, while dishing out punishment for those who fail to please. Uh-oh...... we may be onto something here.

  • orangefatcat
    orangefatcat

    I don't agree with this statement. For some it may be. But in my case it wasn't a feeling of belonging. If I depended upon that I would have been a different type of person. I was alway able to belong no matter what in life. I have the right to make that choice wether to belong or not.

    I had a very bizarre ex husband who had a personality that clashed with practically everyone. We would never get invited out to peoples home in the congregation because of the kind of fanatic he was. He was frankly an obnoxious, self righteous, jerk. He pushed people away, so I learned that we were never ever going to belong or have the feeling of belonging. We invited others to our home, but that is because I wanted to, and told my ex to shut up and let others talk. He repelled the friends. As I became sick over the years I began to see the true colour of many JW. Frankly me dear, they don't give a damn.

    I am a person who is self sufficent. I didn't have to depend upon others to be my friends. If a person wanted to be my friend that was wonderful, but if they didn't want to be around me that was quite frankly their loss. And it was too bad for them, because I have alot of love to give.

    As a witness and I am sure many of you have seen the same senerio. A couple or an individual has started a bible study. Everyone lolly gags over that person to help him /her learn their truth and then these persons get invited out to peoples homes, they are like the cream of the crop, they are new, they are eager, they are loved by all in the kingdom hall. Then they decide to get baptized and everyone is delighted and happy.

    Then wham, after baptism many are dropped like a hot potatoes. All of a sudden they are not fitting into the so- called circle. Their personality may be different, but you excepted it while they were helping you get a thousand hours of service in each month. So you put up with them all of a sudden. Now lets see, they live in abject poverty or where less fortunate then others in the kingdom hall. Now they are looked upon as a burden, they all of sudden feel dejected because people in the hall aren't making a fuss over them. Then reality sets in, they all of a sudden don't fit the crowd. He or she may be a little less that what you think is normal behaviour, or a normal person. (To you). But that is okay they are witnesses now and they can find friends on their own. But for some reason they aren't feeling like they belong. All of a sudden you hear rumors that so and so isn't been going out in the service as much as they use to. Did you notice that she doesn't keep her home very clean, their children are monsters.

    I have seen it happen so many times, I can count it on all my fingers and toes many times over. I have had friends who were dropped like a hot potato after they were baptized, no one visits them any longer and all of a sudden they are the topic of gossip in the hall. Do you think for one minute they think they belong. Let me tell you from my experiences, no they don't feel like they belong or have a real sense of security in the congregation. Next and this is the awlful part, they are now being reproved or disfellowshipped. Am I being cynical? Nope not one bit, as I have seen it.. Haven't you?

    Its true and I am certain you have all seen it or you are a victim of it. How could you honestly feel like you belong when no one bothers with you any more and you can't figure out why.

    I have watched this hypocricy until it made me sick of being called a JW. True love what a joke, they don't know what that means one bit. It's all a facade.

    Yes lets face it, the main reason to be a JW is to please God, not individuals, but alas in reality we strive to fit and belong. Many do and many don't.

    That is how I see it.

    Orangefatcat

  • kls
    kls

    That maybe true for some( feelings of belonging ) but for myself it was the feelings of watching my children die when the end came and the only way to save them was to be a jw. For me i did not like the feelings of belonging to these people , i always felt like they owned me in some odd way . It was like i sold me ,mind ,heart , and soul.

  • new light
    new light

    OOOOOOOOOO................KKKKKKKKKKKKKKK.............So most people don't agree. (Whistles a few notes and walks away.)

  • Agent 1 of 1
    Agent 1 of 1

    Hey New Light, never got to say this yet to anyone but HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!

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