by minimus 40 Replies latest jw friends
I hold hope that one day they will. But sometimes that hope sure does get darkened. In the meantime, I am taking care of myself and leaving it open for them to come to me when their "time" comes. I pray for them and their escape all the time. It's hard to realize that ultimately it's their choice to stay where they are. I can't feel to sorry for them if they don't escape.
Andi
I would love to think that especiailly in regard to my youngest sister. As she left the truth for 14 years and then decided to come back in and get baptized. I feel in my heart though that she may say one day she wants out, she was brainwashed so much by the person who studied with her and funny thing that sister who proved to my sister to come back into the organization, herself left it. I found that very interesting and it was shortly after my sister was baptized.
My sister is in many ways like my mom know who is herself a very staunch witness. I mean in every sense of the word. But one day when my mom was depressed and upset about some stuff she said to me that she wishes she wasn't a JW any more. That nearly blew me away. I guess she immediatlely prayed to Jehovah asking forgiveness for her thoughts. She browbeats her self worse than anyone could do to her.
I wish I could have my family but I am not sure if they will ever leave. My neice in Australia has left her husband after baring four children and she isn't ever thirty yet. Maybe I thought to myself that she may leave the organization. Mind you that would come as a huge blow to the rest of her family.
I guess we just have to see, we never know from one day to the next what could cause a person to change their minds.
Orangefatcat wishes her sister would leave. But somehow I doubt it.
Love Orangefatcat
I met an ex-JW woman who was a devout, firmly believing JW for over 40 yrs. It was when both her husband and herself read the bible that they started to doubt. When she left, not only did her whole family leave, but she "shared the message" with 2 friends and their families and they left too.
Never say never because while this woman was doubting the teachings in her mind, she was very active as a JW and appeared to be very supportive of them. She made me realize that many of the devout JW's who seemed so brain-washed could actually be doubting too and trying not to show it.
Devon
My daughter was talking to a JW last night who was a MS but has not gone out in service in over 2 years! He said he believes in Jehovah and the Golden Rule but not all the other rules the Society says we must abide by. My daughter and her friend were a little surprised by his candidness and know there are plenty more that share the same feelings.
I told a very good friend of mine several months ago, that I had questions for a long time, and that I had started disagreeing with some JW teachings. She told me I should go and talk to the elders. And this is a person who lost all her "close" friends due to being d'fd. At the time of this happening, she was told by the elders that she had grieved the holy spirit by her actions. Now that she's re-instated, none of her "close" friends want anything to do with her and whenever she would come into town, she always contacted me...and we would go eat lunch. She would tell me at those times that she felt like she was still on the outside, she couldn't pray because of what the elders told her about what she had done to the holy spirit, and she didn't know how Jehovah felt towards her, but that she would go to the meetings whenever she could and just go thru the motions of being a JW. I knew what grieving the holy spirit was and told her she hadn't done that--and also found an article about what it meant to grieve the h.s. She felt so uplifted by the article and so the next time we met, and I told her about my disagreements with the society, abd why. And her answer was what I mentioned above. So now I wonder if I should consider her a good friend still if she has those feelings. I do hope I said some things that maybe she will consider and think about. She was supposed to move to another state, and I haven't heard from her as to whether she did or not. And I'm not going to contact her either. Other than her, I never had any close witness friends. My mom, who became a witness in 1941 died last year, so I don't have to worry about her. I have no brothers and sisters, and my husband is a witness but not spiritually-minded at all. He hasn't been to meetings in months due to work. Not that I equate spirituality with meetings, but I've never seen him just open the Bible to read it; he doesn't pray and we never talk about spiritual things. In fact, we hardly talk at all about things that matter. My children are not baptized nor attend meetings. Their ages are 25 and 19 respectively--so I'm just going to leave it at that.
My first response is "NO"...but here I am...and I never dreamed I would be...
You never can tell what will make a person do research on his own religion....be it hypocrisy or lack of love...
Flowerpetal, remember that Witnesses are all screwed up. If a person feels they grieved the holy spirit.......what do you expect from them???????
I have had a toll free 800 number that's available anywhere in North America for 12 years.So my JW family,no matter how desitute,could get in touch.I just took it down,they never called.
After being contacted 2 years ago from a high school friend, I have prayed daily for her release and that she comes to know the real Jesus (John 14:6). She has been a Witness now for over 24 years,
We communicate via email, since we are on oppisite ends of the country. She never response more than once to any topic and sometimes there are long quite periods, but eventually I will hear from her. So I go through periods of real doubt and than periods of hopes that she is looking for the escape scuttle.
This site has given me real hope that Watchtower prison walls have crackes that can be seen from the inside and holes that one can be sqeeze through no matter how much or quickly those in power try to fill them in.
Triple A
This site has given me real hope that Watchtower prison walls have crackes that can be seen from the inside and holes that one can be sqeeze through no matter how much or quickly those in power try to fill them in.
Triple A
Danny sez::Only prisons have "Watchtowers"
