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Jeremy Bravo

Missed a couple...

Unclebruce:

This weekend is the annual party weekend at my roomie's parents cottage. Oh yeah am I ever gonna let it all out. What I'm afraid of is getting all messed up and bawling in the middle of the festivities.

Scorpion:

What you described is the sick feeling that I get; that now matter what, there's nothing I can do to fix this situation because of the cult influence. I am just so sad that there's this awful shadow hanging over our heads and there's nothign in the world I can do about it.

"When there is freedom from mechanical conditioning, there is simplicity. Life is a relationship to the whole." - Bruce Lee.

AngelofMuZiC

Wow, that is touching. I just want to give you a really big hug!!!! I know that what you're going through is hard to deal with, and some others have told you to move on. But that's easier said than done. I lost someone too because my remaining morally sound wasn't something they wanted to deal with. I am an ex-JW, but, I still wish to keep my morals. The person who I was with just couldn't understand why. He insisted on getting drunk all the time, and kept trying to get me to sleep with him. Im not some holy-roller, as some may think, but I don;t like immorality. And this person left me becasue he felt restricted by me. That hurts bigtime, and I felt like I would never recover. I still have some doubts regarding relationships and trust. I feel like all those times he said I love you, were just lies too. But with time, the pain will go away, and you will be okay. I hope you stay with us here on the board.
My Regards, Joanne

esther

Hi Jeremy, you asked

If she trusted me with her heart and soul, why did she say that what I had to say was "probably all crap?"

The short answer is mind control. She has had it drummed into her head that she will be persecuted even by her loved ones. She has been taught that she can only trust the Watchtower organisation.

I am glad you are moving on, it is the wisest thing to do.

It is good that you posted here. Welcome. You will find support here, and understanding.

Regards

esther

Prisca

(((hugs)))

I'm sorry for what you went through (or are still going through). It really stinks when people that say they love you give you up on the easiest excuse.

Unfortunately the JWs demand that the Society is more important than any relationship with a human. Your ex-g/friend's witness friends would have encouraged her to put "God" ahead of her relationship with you.

All I can suggest is to do what helps you get over her. I know it's easier said than done, but with time things will be better.

Take it easy, and post away on this board. You have a lot of hurt, but there are plenty of ppl here who will help you!

Sunbeam

Hi JB

When I was 25 and an atheist I fell in love with a JW. The relationship only lasted a few weeks and I suspect it ended prim
arily because of the inbuilt pressure to marry 'in the truth'.

I highlighted all sorts of problems/weirdnesses inherent in the religion - why where the JW's anti-education, why were there no 'intelligent' people at the local KH, why did God choose an American organisation (sorry everyone in the US), what about this disfellowshipping lark? All to no avail.

One year later, I got back in touch. He'd secretly agreed with a lot of the things I'd mentioned. The latest cheesy mag had been the final straw and he'd left the org. One year after that we were married. It was our 4th wedding anniversary yesterday :-)

I'm not trying to raise your hopes, but never underestimate the power of love and of God. The pain is excruciating right now. I tried partying when we split up but it just made things worse seeing all those happy couples. Friends would tell me I was better off away from the JW's and I'd never change them. So, as someone has said, just use this board to let rip. Everyone here (well, the vast majority) can understand and sympathise in a way that no-one else can.

Love
Sunbeam
xxx

Prisca

Happy (belated) wedding anniversary, Sunbeam!

It's nice to hear of happy endings.

Sunbeam

Thanks, Prisca :-)

Interestingly, at this weekend's DC my JW ma-in-law mentioned to my husband's (ex) best friend that we were upset by his avoidance of our wedding. He had told his wife he couldn't be seen to condone it, so she had to come along by herself.

I had reminded my m-in-l of the scenario recently, in relation to the hurt that was going to ensue at a friend's impending wedding if anyone avoided it for similar reasons, hoping that she would start to spot some of the cracks in the WT 'love'. Four years on, I just hope it sets them all thinking...

Sunbeam
xxx

reagan_oconnor

Welcome, Jeremy, sorry to hear about your girlfriend. I feel your pain.

This reminds me of the suckiest breakup I ever had.

I caught a guy cheating on me (JW) and I was miserable for quite a while afterwards. Eventually I had an epiphany -- I would get over this. I really liked the guy, I felt like a total worthless heel, but I realized that time would heal me and I'd get past it. And I was right. And it didn't take nearly as long as I thought.

Eventually, I got my revenge. But that's another thread entirely...

Reagan

"I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul."

Stacey

Jeremy,

I can totally relate...

A year ago I met a man who was disfellowshipped. I have been out of the JWs by my own choice for 11 years and I think they are not even close to the "truth". He felt differently, even though he had been DF'd for the past 5 years. So we KNEW up front that things were not going to work for us with this difference in thought. But I held out hope.. and I had a miserable 10 month relationship with him. During the time we dated, he decided he wanted to go back to the "truth". But he kept seeing me.

Well, he ended up being a very awful man. And I doubt he can ever get back into the JWs because of the things that he does and the lies that he tells. But before I ever found out about these things, I went through the same things you are going through. I loved the guy... and thought that we could not be together because of the JW issues. And I was right! Now looking back... I know that it was all for the best. Really Jeremy, you would not have been happy with her. Dont you want to be with another person who can think independently from the "mother", the organization? Dont you want a woman who is free from guilt? Who lives her life according to her own thoughts and principals?

I know this is a tough time for you... BUT you will make it through. These tough times build each and every one of us into who we are. Character is the word. This will teach you some lessons of life, and you will find someone who is much better suited for you someday.

Take care!!

Stacey

sf

Hi Jeremy,

Building a support system with others who know EXACTLY what your pain FEELS like is also a good way to take your mind off the pain a bit, at lest for a while. You'll hear others, as you've heard here, that are going thru or will go thru or have gone thru this exact pain. I'm so glad you found Simon's forum here. The dynamics of the members here is never dull and I've developed quite a support system myself with many people here. I wish the same for you too.

The main reason for my reply is to invite you to voice chat over on Yahoo messenger. (speakers and a mic are needed, however, you can text while listening on your speakers; and also open multiple windows and be in other rooms also; venice and i often voice on yahoo, yet text in simons) If you have not yet downloaded it, it is an easy and fast one. Once you get hooked up, click on the "chat" feature. Look for "religions and beliefs", then click on the "user rooms" and scan the list for an EX jw room or jw room. They self delete if no one stays in the room for long. That's okay, just "create room" and others will start coming in. You'll find that many ex jws go into the jw room and vise versa. I mainly am in those rooms to paste relative material re: the WTBTS and it's korruption.

Again, it's wonderful that you "fell" into here. You'll never have to be alone in your thoughts and feelings again. Relief is only a click away.

Sincerely, sKally/ "wturls"/wtURLs on yahoo voice

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