Entheogens can they be good or bad? (page 2)

1 lb, of heavenly blue morning glory seeds($19.) just came in the mail today I plan on doing a couple of 500 seed trips to get the mind ready for yage.

I sent away for 4oz of B. caapi vine , and 4 oz of Psychotria viridis. I will prolly boil all 8 ozs at one time(seperate pots) should take 2 days preparation.

I think my first dose will be one oz of each,,with the MAIO about an hour before. Having prepared 4 doses,, the way I see it,,if the dose is too small I can alway increase it latter.

Have you ever been up to Hicks rd.?? They have a few bike trails there you should check it out,,if you get the chance,,also limekiln rd off of 17.

frankiespeakin

OC,

Here's a place that sell heavenly blue MG seeds for $19 a pound,,(30 trips).:

http://www.outsidepride.com/gardenflower3.asp#moonflower

i am sure you already know, but for many years almost all morning glory seads are covered with a substance to make you puke. some people thought it was a bad idea to trip. make sure they are made for eating and not contaminated. 500 sounds like a very heavy dose, watch out for the leg cramps. i remember readint they are common with MGS.

haven't been up hicks rd or limekiln. lemme know when you head up there, you can trip and i can mountain bike. i usually go to the gap, russian ridge, grizly flats or clouds rest up in palo alto to ride.

frankiespeakin

Sirius,

Yes i know they will make you sick if untreated. I plan to treat them to a unpolarized solution to remove the harmful chemicals and then suspend it in a polarized solution,,and evaporate it. this will give me a purer form of LSA which should be about the same effect as LSD,,with relativily little nusea.

frankiespeakin

Here's a very interesting sight:

http://www.csp.org/practices/entheogens/entheogens.html

Partial C&P:

Entheogen Project

en·theo·gen [god within; god- or spirit-facilitating] a psychoactive sacramental; a plant or chemical substance taken to occasion primary religious experience. Example: peyote cactus as used in the Native American Church.
(Click here for more on nomenclature)

The purpose of the Entheogen Project is to systematically gather knowledge about the immediate and long-term effects of entheogen use and to explore how public policy might accommodate responsible spiritual practices incorporating entheogens.

frankiespeakin

Cut and paste:

http://www.csp.org/practices/entheogens/docs/roberts-immune.html

Do entheogen-induced mystical experiences boost the immune system?
Psychedelics, peak experiences, and wellness by Thomas B. Roberts

Thomas B. Roberts PhD is a Professor of Educational Psychology at Northern Illinois University, DeKaIb, IL (USA), where he has taught courses on transpersonal, mind-body, psychedelic, and consciousness topics. Advances in Mind-Body Medicine, 15 (1999) : 139-147
Copyright © 1999 John E. Fetzer Institute
Used by CSP with permission of the journal and of the author.
All rights reserved.

Abstract. Daily events that boost the immune system (as indicated by levels of salivary immunoglobulin A), some instances of spontaneous remission, and mystical experiences seem to share a similar cluster of thoughts, feelings, moods, perceptions, and behaviors. Entheogens ? psychedelic drugs used in a religious context ? can also produce mystical experiences (peak experiences, states of unitive consciousness, intense primary religious experiences) with the same cluster of effects. When this happens, is it also possible that such entheogen-induced mystical experiences strengthen the immune system? Might spontaneous remissions occur more frequently under such conditions? This article advances the so called "Emxis hypothesis" ? that entheogen-induced mystical experiences influence the immune system.

frankiespeakin

BTW I have a very interesting "triping" friday,,took 13 grams of heavenly blue MG seeds. I didn't clean out all the bad chemicals only soaked it in naptha for 2 days,,and then dried it overnight. So I got a little sick but not too bad,,the messages were great,,I was unable to walk,,my mind felt like it was releasing tremendeous pressure from unreleased emotions it wasn't comfotable but it sure was transforming and powerful.

Entheogens can they be good or bad?

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