hmmmm two alternative energy postings today... very intriguing or just coincidence?
energy secret Sequestered by U.S. Government
by one 27 Replies latest watchtower child-abuse
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outoftheorg
SEVERAL THINGS HERE MAKE LITTLE OR NO SENSE.
THE THING I FIND MOST UNBELIEVABLE, IS THAT A MAN THAT FELL 40 FEET, DETATCHED 3 RIBS AND RUPTURED SEVERAL VERTEBRA, WAS ABLE TO DO, ANYTHING, MORE THAN MOAN, THE NEXT DAY.
WHILE PART OF HIS STATEMENT MAY BE TRUE, THIS MAKES ALL OF IT SUSPECT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK???
Outoftheorg
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Undaunted Danny
Factoids:looks like a fact,has the web feet and quacks.But it's not a fact it's a factoid.Don't get me wrong my life long dream is to discover a perpetual motion machine that really works.[it violates the laws of physics esp. thermodynamics] Think about this we already have wizardry that does it and more.Ever since James Watt invented his steam engine.Mr Watts machines were so powerful,he invented the horsepower rating.One horsepower = 746 watts or the sustained power output of three strong men. Here in Maine USA we have the 2nd highest cost for electricity at 12 cents a kilowatt hour.That translates to the sustained power output of Four able bodied men for an entire hour for only 12 cents. try to hire a laborer at that rate of pay. Ah yes what a wonderful bargain,who needs perpetual motion machines?We already have it and more..[ think of how much of this abundant energy we waste]The hunt for the free lunch is much like the promise of WT$ cult paradise. It's a fraud.During the heyday of the 1970's oil shocks,I explored the patents on the 150 mile per gallon vaporizing carburetors.Here,the US patent office actually issued elaborate patents on these 'inventions' which did NOT work. My final observation on the 'conspiracy theories'. These paranoid rants suggest that 'powers that be' are 'pigeon holing' superior and cheaper systems in order to make and hoard profits. Longevity:This one sez:that a 'formula' for extended youth is being suppressed so that doctors can make make profits on health care. Debunked:Simply check the obituary's of the longevity scientist who are alleged to be involved in this cover up.They all die the same age as the poor and uneducated. Please someone prove me a liar and show me a perpetual motion machine that really works.I will kiss your ass.
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Undaunted Danny
definitions (factoid) noun: something resembling a fact; unverified (often invented) information that is given credibility because it appeared in print e.g.Watchtower Publications
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one
Elsewhere,
I am not sure that, as you said, "none of them are running their house or car on all of the many "promising" technologies". Some bits below
As i mentioned several month ago, Fuel cell have beenn powering space vehicles for decades. Fuel cell mainly use Hydrogen as the source of energy.
You can use fuel cell to power your cell phone... instead of recharging battery
A submarine out of Germany works on Fuel Cell
Ford motors made a H2ICE (Hydrogen Internal Combustion Engine) car... It is the same old engine but the fuel is different. I you had the right equipment, you could produce the fuel at home, for a couple of hundred k$ you can buy the whole "kit", car and hydrogen generator..No pollution, hydrogen should be cheap to produce or extract from water (= H2O).
Satanus,
The energy issue is not going to cool off any time soon... At the present time Iraq is still burning.
About energy,
Regarding free energy, and without thinking too much about how it works, think about a water fall, wind, the sun and a permanent magnet and see if you can find anything in common among them.
As a kid, did you play with magnets?, Were the ENERGY to pull or atract objects came from?
The problem, IMHO, it is not just finding a better energy source, BUT what geopolitical implications it will have if implemented. Turning an oil depedent world into an X ("free"?) (hydrogen?) dependent world automatically turn the issue from an economic (BIG implications) to a political issue that world leaders are not prepare to handle..
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Goshawk
This might be a little off-topic. Why is this thread in Child Abuse and not in Current Affairs? ?!?
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Elsewhere
I am not sure that, as you said, "none of them are running their house or car on all of the many "promising" technologies". Some bits below As i mentioned several month ago, Fuel cell have beenn powering space vehicles for decades. Fuel cell mainly use Hydrogen as the source of energy.
I was not referring to Fuel Cells... that is a proven technology that does not claim to be "free energy".
Now, this guy who says that his electric motor produces more energy than is put into it... that is BS. That is the guy I want to see running his house's electrical needs on his "free energy" machine... I can guarantee that this will never happen, because anyone who says that their machine creates energy out of thin air is either a fool or is lying and trying to swindle someone.
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one
Elsewhere,
Probably i did not followed you when you said :"So many people talking about free energy... yet none of them are running their house or car on all of the many "promising" technologies. "
Fuel cell could be considered a "promising" "free energy" technology...But "f ree energy" may not be the best term to use
As far i as rembember there are places in usa (california) where energy is being generated out of "thin air" using "wind mills". If i remember well, even for commercial use.
Then you have sunlight tracking "solar panels", photovoltaic.
Right now i just came across this site
http://www.eere.energy.gov/state_energy/opfacbytech.cfm?state=PA#Hydro
which list some "free energy" projects.
Problem is most i;ndividuals have limits. They dont have the time, "energy", knowledge or access to affordable parts to build any machine to produce "free": electricity. Count me as having at least 3 of the above limitations..
Besides, do you think the world economy and politics, as it stand today, will tolerate "free energy" generation by anyone? What do you think could be the result? Really,
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XQsThaiPoes
I have not read this in detail but most of these devices work but require an physical anomaly like a monopole magnet or black hole "hydrogen metal". Things that may or may not exist and if they do they don't exist on earth. These devices require large quantities of these exotic materials. In reality some may look like free energy but are not.
They are like fancy fossil fuels or fissile materials basically natural capacitors. Something that takes so much energy to make that it gives off a fraction of that energy with out much effort. To make a mono pole magnet for example you take take a normal magnet and streach it to infinity. This is something that is impossible unless you have a singularity. The most common Singularites take super massive stars to form them if you could already control the formation of a super giant then you dont need a monopole magnet that badly. This is a wacky example but hold true for most of these devices. It take more energy for hot fusion to be sustained in a lab than the reaction generates. The only thing that can change this is more exotic materials. Most of these guys dont claim to be competeing with dupont or motorola for business. If they are not already research scientist at a school, company or indipendantly wealthey inventors they are out of the loop.
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one
State Approves Mars Hill Wind Power Project
June 1, 2004
CONTACT:
David Littell, 207-287-2812, [email protected](AUGUSTA)?Department of Environmental Protection Commissioner Dawn R. Gallagher has approved the construction of Maine?s first wind power project. When fully operational, the project will produce approximately 50 Megawatts of electricity, enough to supply tens of thousands of households. The power will be produced by more than 30 turbines atop towers built along a ridge and plateau of Mars Hill, in northern Maine.
According to Commissioner Gallagher, ?With this project, Maine is taking a significant step to ease our over-reliance on fossil fuels for electrical generation.
?While some fuels pollute less than others, and all power generators are subject to strict environmental controls, there will be emissions nonetheless. Not so with wind. From an air quality standpoint, it truly is ?clean.?
?Even better, it?s ?renewable.? Fossil fuels are finite commodities, and we see today how diminishing supply affects energy costs. Adding wind power to the generation mix will make us less susceptible to market pressures. It also will help slow the depletion of irreplaceable natural resources.?
Evergreen Windpower, LLC and the Town of Mars Hill submitted the project for state review. As approved, it will cover nearly 116 acres and include road upgrades, underground and overhead lines, a sub station and a switching station, and a maintenance facility. Maximum combined height of a tower and a turbine will be approximately 389 feet. Although there is no evidence to suggest that the project will interfere with bird migration, DEP is requiring post-construction monitoring to ensure minimum environmental impact.