Moscow's final ban on Jehovah's Witnesses!

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    Joker10

    Moscow upholds ban on Jehovah's Witnesses

    By MARIA DANILOVA
    ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER

    Leader of Russian Jehovah's Witnesses, Vasily Kalin, right, Jehovah's Witnesses' Canadian lawyer John Burns, center, and spokesman for the Jehovah's Witnesses Christian Presber, stand in front of the Moscow City Court, Wednesday, June 16, 2004. A Moscow court upheld a ban on the city's Jehovah's Witnesses, ending a six-year case that reflected growing pressure to stifle minority religious groups in Russia, where Orthodox Christianity is predominant. (AP Photo/Mikhail Metzel)

    MOSCOW -- Reflecting increased pressure on religious minorities in a country dominated by the Russian Orthodox Church, a Moscow court Wednesday upheld a ban on the Jehovah's Witnesses.

    The ruling by the Moscow City Court upholds a lower court decision earlier this year that prohibited Jehovah's Witnesses from engaging in religious activity.

    The ruling arose from a Russian law that allows courts to ban religious groups that are considered to be inciting hatred or intolerant behavior.

    Jehovah's Witnesses spokesman Christian Presber said the decision will prevent the group from renting space for worship, holding bank accounts or otherwise supporting its religious activities.

    "Religious freedom has just turned back to where it was in Soviet times," the organization's Canadian lawyer John Burns told The Associated Press outside the courtroom.

    At the hearing Burns and his colleagues argued that the lower court was biased, taking into account evidence provided almost exclusively by prosecutors. They also said the court based its ruling on the testimony of only seven witnesses who did not speak for the entire Moscow community.

    There are about 10,000 Jehovah's Witnesses in Moscow and 133,000 nationwide, according to the group.

    Defense lawyers also argued that banning Jehovah's Witnesses was an ideological decision against people who don't celebrate Russia's national holidays, chose not to serve in the army and are seen as promoting what the court ruling called "alienation from traditional religions."

    Presber said the ruling would send a dangerous signal to authorities across Russia, possibly leading to similar trials.

    He also asked how intrusively authorities would become in enforcing the ban on a group that does not celebrate occasions marked by most of the rest of the population.

    "Are they going to make police come into apartments to see that kids are celebrating holidays and birthdays?" he said.

    Prosecutors claimed the group was destroying families and endangering followers' health by forbidding medical procedures such as blood transfusions. They also said Jehovah's Witnesses were violating privacy by distributing religious pamphlets on the street and by mail.

    In Moscow, the Jehovah's Witnesses have about 100 congregations of about 100 members each and usually gather once or twice a week for worship services involving prayer and discussion of the Bible. They also publish two magazines, Presber said.

    The Moscow group had been fighting for survival since 1998, when proceedings were first launched to shut it down. In 2001, a local court threw out prosecutors' attempts to ban the group, but another court later revived the case. The second trial, which ended in the ban, began in 2002.

    An elderly woman who attended the hearing and identified herself only as Olga applauded the ban, saying that now "other souls won't die." Five years ago, she said, her daughter joined the Jehovah's Witnesses, which she derisively referred to as a "sect." Russia's 1997 religion law enshrines Orthodox Christianity as the country's predominant religion and pledges respect for Buddhism, Islam and Judaism - called traditional religions - but places restrictions on other groups.

    Wednesday's ruling came a day after a museum manager went on trial on charges of inciting religious hatred with an exhibit that angered the Russian Orthodox Church.

    Defense lawyer Galina Krylova said that although Wednesday's decision was final, the case was already being considered by the European Court of Human Rights.

    Svetlana Genelova, a 47-year-old who became a Jehovah's Witness seven years ago, said members will continue worshipping despite the ban, gathering at followers' apartments. "Nobody can forbid us to read and live by the Bible," she said.

    Wednesday's ruling came a day after a museum manager went on trial on charges of inciting religious hatred with an exhibit that angered the Russian Orthodox Church. The court sent that case back to prosecutors, saying the indictment was flawed. The court gave the state five days to fix the problem.

    Who can actually be happy about this?

  • Sirius Dogma
    Sirius Dogma
    Who can actually be happy about this?

    Me!!

    3 cheers for the motherland!! wait, I don't think I am russian.

    What is not to be happy about, they banned a destructive cult, while I do disagree with the ideology behind the decision.

  • Elsewhere
    Elsewhere

    I wonder how they will handle the blood issue...

    Dr: We are going to need to give you a blood products.
    Patient: No Blood! No Blood! No Blood!
    Dr: Why is that?
    Patient: Err, umm... It's a personal decision... I just don't want blood.

  • mineralogist
    mineralogist

    But why be happy? I think JWs will view it as their persecution because being no part of satans world.

    They surely will continue in underground and maybe grow stronger like Malawi or similar events. And for the single JW life becomes more difficult.

  • scotsman
    scotsman

    There's nothing like a bit of oppression to make the Witnesses even more sure that they're right.

  • ohiocowboy
    ohiocowboy
    Who can actually be happy about this?

    High Five

    Just about anyone who is tired of being under the spell of a cultish, disillusioned entity. Now if the rest of the world would only wise up......

    They surely will continue in underground and maybe grow stronger like Malawi or similar events. And for the single JW life becomes more difficult.

    Maybe, but the number of new recruits I think will decline.

    How could life possibly get any more difficult for a single JW than it already is???!!!

  • Doubtfully Yours
    Doubtfully Yours

    JWs will find a way around it. They always do.

    DY

  • truthseeker1
    truthseeker1

    If they have a law that bans intollerant and hate spreading religions, then JWs do fall under this catagory. They are taught to hate the world and also to be intollerant of EVERYONE eles' religions.

    Cheers to Russia to not allow this kind of behavior to be promoted and recognized as a state religion.

  • Big Tex
    Big Tex

    I don't think Jehovahs Witnesses should be banned. Ignored? Sure. They're really not that important in the grand scheme of things. A fringe little sect that no one really gives a damn about.

    But I do find it ironic that an organization that forbids any freedoms inside their organization, and who for years disfellowshipped (read: spiritually killed) anyone who spoke up about the sexual abuse problem, will now turn around and whine about receiving the same treatment.

    Chris

  • truthseeker1
    truthseeker1

    If they don't want to be banned, they can change their intollerance...

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