Yeru
There's really not any point in discussing things with you. You lie too much to make it worthwhile;
You continue to want to excuse those who work evil and then blame the west...
If that's your conclusion from what I have said either you are too dumb to understand what I am saying, or seek to falsely chacterise what I say. I don't think your that stupid.
You also seem to think that secular people can't have a conversation about evil;
... either you ARE spiritual and this IS a conversation about evil, or you're a secularist and it doesn't matter.
... which is ignorant bullshit.
You also seem to have difficulty understanding I am criticisng those who DO in their ignorance direct all their anger against Islam (as distinct from the bad guys) and those who are simply incapable of making it clear that they are angry with the bad guys and whose sloppy arguments inflame passions by characterising it in a way that makes it look like and Isalm vs. the west fight.
Every careless use of the word 'Crusade' by a politician, every implicitily anti-Muslim statement, plays into the hands of the real enemy; fundies like the Wahhabis.
As you are yet to condemn people who joke about millions of American men, women and children dying so a nuclear strike on the Middle East is justified, or those who seek the elimination of Islam, or those who see no hope of peaceful co-existence with Islam, I can't see much difference between you and Muslims who refuse to condemn the Muslims who preach violence and intolerance.
If you are not for uniting with peace loving people and condeming those who preach violence (no matter whether they are Christian or Muslim), it is you who are part of the problem.
You charcterise Islam as violent in origin, dispersal and in the present day but studiously avoid acknowledging such characterisations are identical to claims of Islam en toto being evil or showing that they are not.
But scarecrow, like I say, your continual lies about what I say are reason enough for me to be utterly bored with talking to you.
You seem to think pointing out some things make the situation worse as invalid. What I have criticized in this thread (and you have not) are nuclear war and identifying all Muslims with a minority. If you actually thought about what I wrote, you'd see the solutions I'm suggesting. But you can't see past your own preconceptions.
Crazy; look at the words 'proper fission device'. Do they have such a thing? Anything else would not kill the millions of American (or European) men women and children that dolphman would see as justification of the nuclear sterilisation of the MIddle East. Dirty bombs would make a bloody mess, yes, and cause deaths, yes, but the fact people think a multi-kilotonne fission device is within the technical abilities of Al-Q shows they know dick.