I Rote A Paean to Myself

by Tallyman 24 Replies latest jw friends

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  Cautious

  Hello Tallyman - being a recent arrival to this illustrious board, I will have to plead ignorance on what this issue is about.

  I just want to tell you that I like your style

  Looking forward to more of your posts
  Cautious
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  Prisca

  pae'an : n. song or shout of triumph, thanksgiving, joy, etc.

  I thought I had read the title of this thread wrong, or Tally had made a spelling mistake. Well, you learn something everyday!
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  COMF

  Farkenstein,

  You know that I know that I have absolutely no experience nor competence to intelligently answer a question like that. After all, I'm 1) Not an elder and 2) I don't wash windows or wax floors: ergo, I'm totally unqualified to give anything of value here.

  You're not an elder, maybe, but you're an elder apostate, having come out before I went in! But it was a rhetorical question anyway, of course. Want to take on the other question?

  COMF
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  think41self

  Tallyman,

  Hmmmmm, How do I say this without causing offense?

  While you are obviously an intelligent man, and no doubt have suffered greatly through your experiences...I find that ones' intelligence could be put to better use than using wit and sarcasm to castigate another human being.

  I don't personally know you...I don't personally know COMF, but I have enjoyed reading both of your posts...and I think you both have goodness to offer. Because of my own life experiences, people who use sarcasm are many times suffering incredible pain...or are just mean spirited...in your case I believe it is the former.

  You are of course welcome to continue this COMF bashing if you choose, I will not be affected by it, but perhaps it is your spirit that is?

  COMF...you have offered many positive things on this board in my experience...just wanted to tell you that.

  Think41self
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  Tallyman

  Farkel,

  Otherwise, say what you feel about it.
  It is good for the soul and if it helps you, then go for it.

  Hey Dougie, I think I'll "go for it".

  Anywho, I can always cover ANYTHING & EVERYTHING I write from here on,
  and "couch my observation in terms that convey" - "tongue-in-cheek humor"
  and as being just "subtleties at work", "a nod", "exaggerations"...etc.,
  like KOMF claimed he was doing in his replies...

  Hey, that lets me off the hook, huh? Covers my Ass on Everything, huh?

  Heeee, The Ultimate Cop-Out.
  Or as one of those Phony "Professional" Wrestlers referred to himself as:
  "The Total Package".

  Uhh uhh, yuhh, yeah, that's it (in a Beavis&Butthead-esque way),
  anything I write here on the DB, about anyone or everyone, in or out
  of context, at any given time, will be me just being and using:
  "The Total Package".

  KOMF is anonymous for the reasons he's stated.

  No one jumped in to explain to me, HOW a person who is trying to remain
  hidden, for family-sake, would post his photograph up alongside his
  acronym, and Risk It All, that someone lurking would spot him and
  'turn him in' to the family member he's worried about 'finding out'...?

  Yesterday, my comments, could have alerted KOMF to what he was doing...
  maybe he hadn't realized He Was Hanging His Anonymous Self Out To Dry
  with that picture... and if he'd heeded my words,
  I could have Saved His Anonymous Bacon!

  Yet, he still has his pic up today.

  ThatDoesNotCompute.

  - - -

  Dougie, when we had our phone conversation, when you called me last August,
  and when we were talking about my family tragedy, about my "case",
  about the legal jam I was presently in... (and BTW, I don't ever remember
  talking about my "online Tallyman persona"... right? Because I had not even
  posted ANYTHING online for over two months, in ANY forum. Hell, I'd not
  even sent email, on the advice of my lawyer... and I'd certainly not
  posted anything on H2O for over SIX MONTHS, since Rick had kicked me out)

  but anyway, when I talked with you that first time, and I heard your voice...
  well, Doug, I gots to tell you, that you have a soothing and gentle voice.
  You were VERY mild and mellow like those SOUTHern Californians are known for.
  NOT AT ALL LIKE THE WRITTEN WORDS WE READ BY FARKEL...!
  You did not come across at all, like "Farkel".

  Why, I swear, I could have been talking to Yanni, without the Greek accent.

  But then,
  KOMF made so much about you reporting back to my friends on H2O
  about me, Tom Talley, being "very soft-spoken and sensitive"...
  and how THAT did not match the KultKrimeFightingTallyman persona...

  But, in that brief, onetime conversation with you, I could not have
  gone around saying with any solid support, that you were always
  mild mannered and soft-spoken, just as you, of course,
  could only speak to how I sounded THAT DAY.
  (not how my voice sounds ALL the time)
  Right?

  And anyone else, like KOMF, who was sufficiently sensitive enough
  and could have understood the subtleties and dynamics at work,
  could well have reasoned that the person, me, you were talking with that day
  had just HAD THE SHIT KICKED OUT OF HIM with all the troubles swirling
  around and the voice on the other end of the phone line was "soft spoken"
  because ALL THE JUICE HAD BEEN KNOCKED OUT of it...

  But, anyway, when you told the folks over at H2O (about me), after our chat:

  He is a very soft-spoken and sensitive guy

  Wise KOMF had to comeback with:

  Please. Those who, like me, know you only from observing your online activities on H2O will agree that "softspoken" and "sensitive" are the last words anyone would have chosen to describe you. And so, being one who calls it like I see it, I said as much, taking issue with the words of my good friend Farkel.

  But, later, KOMF laid claim to realizing the 'dynamics in play' at the time:

  As someone experiencing great emotional stress and upheaval, you aren't expected to see the subtleties at work here.

  Which, Begs-To-Hell the question, WHY-In-Hell would KOMF comeback
  with those statements, that a person like me, in the position I was in-
  (that KOMF acknowledges above)
  a person looking for all the support he could get at the time-
  why would an understanding guy like KOMF, who realizes (and states so)
  make the VERY statements that I might Misunderstand?

  Why?

  Others thought the same. Others have made the comment to me, asking
  why did KOMF stab you like that, with those words?

  Even just last week, a clear-headed, rational Uncle Bruce, observed:

  Talley - I noted the Captains comment about you when it was made
  and have been curious about it ever since.
  I said little about you during all of it other than squash
  a few obvious untruths because we'd never met.
  [...]
  I don't doubt he may have thought the worse
  or may still think that your personality was/is aggressive
  and the firey passion with which you fight the evil empire
  had spilt over into your personal life -
  I admit I felt that possibility too but refrained from posting anything
  that way due to people like Focus and Farkel who knew you more than me
  and the implications
  such talk
  would have for anti-cult fighters all over the net.

  Was Uncle Bruce "experiencing great emotional stress and upheaval",
  when he read KOMF's words, when they were made? I don't think so.
  He saw the "subtleties"
  for what they were.

  Short version: let it go.

  In due time, Dougie, in due time.
  Not just yet, though.

  TT

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  Tallyman

  Mommy, you l'il goddess, you!

  I am glad to see that your BS Detector is in Fine Working Condition.

  Some, after years in the Watchtower, have a hard time getting all those
  clogs out of the filter in that little, but powerful, instrument.

  And you know, thinking back, over nearly a decade online as the "Tallyman"...
  I don't think I've ever said anything to come close to:
  "Eat Shit and Die!"...
  not even to the most Ardent WTFanatic, not even in my most
  "obnoxious", "aggressive", "antisocial" mode.

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  Tallyman

  T4Self,

  not to cause offense, but when you say:

  I find that ones' intelligence could be put to better use than using wit
  and sarcasm to castigate another human being.

  I was wondering, WHO do you mean "castigated" WHO ?

  and,

  Because of my own life experiences, people who use sarcasm
  are many times suffering incredible pain...or are just mean spirited...

  Certainly, you don't think those are the ONLY (TWO) options?

  Sarcasm can be applied in Many Ways, Situations, Circumstances
  for Many Different Reasons.

  I love the way Elijah used it against the Ba'al priesthood.

  Like 'Righteous Indignation', there is its first cousin, 'Righteous Sarcasm'.

  You are of course welcome to continue this COMF bashing if you choose,

  Tell me T4, how would you react and respond, if someone here on the DB
  called you "obnoxious" and "antisocial".

  Would you let those words about you hang in the air and float,
  or would you refute them - At-The-Grave-Risk-Of-Being-Accused-Of-Bashing?

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  Tallyman

  Prisca,

  I glad I hepped learnt you a new word 'paean', yestiddy.

  Of course, the other word, 'rote' is a noun, but I saw fit to use it
  as a verb. What, with being god, I'm allowed to take license.

  And thank you, last week, for being the Only Person to give their
  interpretation of the minor poem, INVICTUS, after I requested
  open interpretations from others.

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  Tallyman

  Cautious,

  (In my best Elvis impersonation)

  "Thankew,ThankewVermuch!"

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  Tallyman

  KOMF,

  Hi, Tom. Glad to see you're still here,

  Hi.
  Sure I'm still here.
  Why wouldn't I be?
  I mean, it's not like I'm a n t i - s o c i a l , or anything.

  and that you read my replies to your posts.

  Yesss.

  They answered your questions, presented the facts, and
  explained my thoughts clearly.

  Well, of course, they didn't.

  Remember, "subtleties" were at work in your words.

  What is a "clear" subtlety like?

  I don't believe I have ever seen one.

  I'm happy with them.

  You would be.

  Whether you accept them or not is your choice, as we all know.

  Thank you for stating the Obvious.

  My goodness, you were not being a tad bit subtle, there!

  There's one thing yet unclear to me though,

  Only "one"?

  and I wonder if you'd mind explaining it for me.
  As you know, I put this question to Farkel way back when, speaking of you:

  quote:
  Another case of aggression emerging from behind the shields
  of internet distance and invisibility?

  You explained that you took this to mean that I was saying
  you shot your brother, not in defense, but aggressively.

  Your reading comprehension is not up to snuff, KOMF.

  Here is what I "explained", last week in part 3 of my (sensitive)"Sharing":

  But the thing you said in your H2O Slam about "aggression"...
  maybe I interpreted that badly, but from your reply to the context
  of Farkel's thread, I saw that as you implying I was the aggressor,
  in the family tragedy Farkel and I had talked about on the phone...
  that maybe you were referring obliquely to my "case" and that maybe
  my "aggressive" Tallyman KKF persona had spilled over into Real Life...
  that it had "emerged" ... and fantasy became reality?

  Or did I misunderstand you there, COMF?

  Here, if you need to read it again, this time for understanding:

  * http://www.intrex.net/tallyman/Sharing3.html

  "maybe", "interpreted", "badly", "context", "implying", "maybe",
  "obliquely", "maybe", "?", "misunderstand", "?"

  All those- key words and symbols, KOMF.

  My question is: in that interpretation,
  what did you do with the reference to the internet?

  See above.

  Why did YOU bring up the internet, when Farkel and I did not talk
  at all about the Internet?

  Your reply was to the CONTEXT of Farkel's H2O post, was it not?
  (all the other posters on Farkel's thread replied to his context)

  * http://www.intrex.net/tallyman/Dougie.html

  He wrote nothing of the Internet or of the "Tallyman" persona.
  (because we had not talked over the phone about that)

  Why did you bring it up, except to make your strange and mysterious
  and suggestive point? (read: 'subtle')

  Where would "internet distance and invisibility"
  come into play in the confrontation between you and your brother?

  It wouldn't.
  Of course.
  And since I have never had any "internet distance or invisibility"...
  it makes your comments all the more mysterious and oblique.

  And as I write, in my comments in this thread, to Farkel,
  "others", (like Uncle Bruce) not distraught, like myself, at the time
  read those same comments by you... and "understood" them
  and "interpreted" them, the same way as me.

  Not goodly.

  Thanks in advance for your answer.
  KOMF

  Why, y'all are sho nuff welcome, in advance, too!

  Y'all come back now, y'hear?

  signed:
  Tom Talley (yes! a REAL name!)

  p.s. KOMF, since I was so responsive to your question,
  do you mind me asking you a question?

  Why, if you are trying to remain anonymous on the Internet,
  and don't want your jW son finding out about your "activities"...
  Why In The Hell do you keep putting up your facial photograph
  next to every post you make... for someone to "make" you?

  Why?

  Thanks in advance for your answer!

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