by Kenneson 23 Replies latest watchtower scandals
"Now I exhort you brothers, through the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that you should all speak in agreement, and that there should not be divisions among you, but that you may be fittly united in the same mind and in the same line of thought." 2 Cor. 1:10
Translation: The WTS is always right, and don't you dare question any of their doctrines.
I was once told by an elder that 7th Day Adventists were a spin off from the witnesses. I have no idea if he knew what he was talking about or not. Somehow I doubt that he was right, but I really don't know anything about them.
Ciara
I was once told by an elder that 7th Day Adventists were a spin off from the witnesses. I have no idea if he knew what he was talking about or not. Somehow I doubt that he was right, but I really don't know anything about them.
I've heard that too, but the truth is both groups started about the same time and are classed as "Adventist" type religions in religion books. Mormons are also considered Adventists. I think that is where the confusion comes in. Not all Adventists are Seventh Day Adventists.
Does that make sense at all?
That's funny, I thought Russel borrowed ideas from the 7th Day Adventists. I've also heard that mainstream Christianity rejected the JWs because they don't believe Jesus is God, yet the JWs claim just the opposite. Funny how JWs try to take credit for everything.
I think you could consider this group, JWD to be a spin off.
Oxnard,
A study of the background of Charles Taze Russell, will reveal that Russell never claimed to be an Adventist. However, he does admit that it was his attendance at a Second Adventist (not to be confused with Seventh Day Adventists) meeting conducted by Jonas Wendall that he had his faith rekindled. Also, he fellowshipped with the Second Adventists from 1868 until 1878, when he quit the staff of an Adventist publication "The Herald of the Morning." He had a major disagreement with N.H. Barbour, one of his collaborators, who had rejected the teaching that Christ's death could be an atonement for sinners This is when he severs all ties with Barbour and Second Adventists. In July 1879 Russell began his own publication "Zion's Watch Tower and Herald of Christ's Presence."
So, I would say that Russell certainly was influenced by and worked with the Second Adventists, while never claiming to be one.
Very interesting thread!!!! Regarding the Society's view that all of Christendom is the result of apostasy and that anyone that leaves Watchtower today is an apostate, the truth is---the JW religion is an outgrowth of Adventism and should cleary be viewed as "apostate"-----more than any other group out there.
Further to Min's point, the present-day JWs are themselves a spin-off of the Bible Students who continue to exist. That being so, the WTS are themselves, by their own definition, "apostates".
That being so, the WTS are themselves, by their own definition, "apostates".
Ozmeister,
The dub response to the above would be......" were christians also apostates since they sprang from the Jewish people and their "law". Some jews continued in their abiding by the law over Jesus, yet the christians dropped the law and clung to Jesus. Would these "reformed Jews" be viewed as apostate just because they "sprang" from the jews? True....not all believers were at one time jews......but many were.
( just seeing it from a dubs view....that's all)
Gumby
the WTS are themselves, by their own definition, "apostates".
Yes, but they use the term "new light?" to describe their own apostasy.
Walter
