Are JW teaching the truth??? Do JW's know the truth???

by JDWEEE 15 Replies latest watchtower beliefs

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  JDWEEE

  I recently became interested in the JW, when a classmate of mine in college, told me he was a JW, and how it changed his life. I didnt know much about it, and asked him questions about his faith, and what it meant, and where it came from? And i was surprised at the answers he gave me, and became very interested, and wanted to learn more.

  After asking him questions off, and on, for a period of time, i decided to go to the web, and find out more. And i was shocked at the information i found, both the JW beleif, and the beleifs of others! And i was even more shocked about the answers i found to my questions! Which led me to beleive, that the JW do not know all the truth, and are not teaching the truth according to what i found.

  All of this confuses me, and leaves even more questions unanswered for me? A lot of what i found was documented facts, about how the JW started, and where they get their beleifs. So this raises a lot of dought for me!!??

  Charles Taze Russell, was the founder of the JW in the 1860's. And based the religion on his "own" interpretations of the Bible, and what it taught. He had "no" education in theology, or Greek, and Hebrew.

  Question: How can an average man, with "no" education, interprete the Bible?

  Question: Why would God, allow so many people to beleive the wrong thing for so long, up until the 1860's, without the right answers according the the JW's?
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  Joker10

  They believe that the true worshippers of Jehovah were going to show up during the "last days" after a long period in which no other religion was practicing the real Bible truths. They believe this is part of the Bible's prophecy of "spiritual restauration".

  They also believe that Jehovah was in favor of Russell and his bible study groups and the "new understandings" that they were learning. Thus the rapid growth.
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  heathen

  Welcome to the board JDEEE. If you look through the threads already on the board you can find the answers .

  This is not a JW board but a discussion board of the beliefs . Good questions tho .CT Russel was originally a seventh day adventist and decided to start his own religion probly because the SDA couldn't predict an accurate date for the conclusion of this system of things much like Russel couldn't .

  I think the answer to question 2 is that God allowed the church to adopt pagan beliefs because he was letting satan rule the world . The messianic kingdom was not ruling until 1914 according to the WTBTS because they believe that the seven times of Daniel 4 are actually the appointed times of the nations and when you take 607 bce and add the 7times 360 ( then you have to use a year for a day ) 360 is the number of days for the jewish calander year ,you arrive at 1914. I don't think anyone on the board agrees with that .
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  Corvin

  Welcome JDWEEE! Glad you found us.

  And i was even more shocked about the answers i found to my questions! Which led me to beleive, that the JW do not know all the truth, and are not teaching the truth according to what i found.

  You are one of the fortunate. There are many many who were born into the religion who spend their entire lives devoted to it and never really dig and search for the truth about "The Truth". I am one of those who, after 37 years of blindly believing, finally found out what you already have.

  They believe that the true worshippers of Jehovah were going to show up during the "last days" after a long period in which no other religion was practicing the real Bible truths. They believe this is part of the Bible's prophecy of "spiritual restauration".

  Yes, and in addition to this, the Watchtower Society teaches that there was a "great apostasy" or "falling away" of God's true servants in the first century when false teachings were introduced to the pure Christian congregation, and they assert that it was Jehovah's purpose that men remained blind to the truth until the appointed time of the end.

  I think the answer to question 2 is that God allowed the church to adopt pagan beliefs because he was letting satan rule the world . The messianic kingdom was not ruling until 1914 according to the WTBTS because they believe that the seven times of Daniel 4 are actually the appointed times of the nations and when you take 607 bce and add the 7times 360 ( then you have to use a year for a day ) 360 is the number of days for the jewish calander year ,you arrive at 1914. I don't think anyone on the board agrees with that .

  The Watchtower Society has, since its beginning, tried to faniggle dates and numbers to support their teachings. Those numbers and dates have changed throughout the years.

  If you would like a really clear concise perspective on the religion and the way they work, their teachings, their errors, their scandals and coverups, read Crisis Of Conscience by Raymong Franz. You can find and order the book online. Used copies in very good condition are always available from $7 to $14. This book was written by a former JW governing body member and is very eye-opening. I am sure those who post after me will have much much more information to share, so stay tuned.

  Best Regards,

  Corvin
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  cyber-sista

  Welcome JDWEEE,

  I was a JW for some 20 years and a good one too, but it all ended quite tragically, as it does with many. Glad you found this discussion board before you got assimilated into the Borg (Brooklyn Organization). Many of us are here and picking up the pieces of our lives--many lost years and people and broken families. What was originally presented to me as a "spiritual paradise" turned out to be a real estate investment corp and book publishing company--its member being workers for the company, but they are unpaid and many times mistreated. I would say to run as fast as you can from JW land...
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  Nathan Natas

  Q.: Are JW teaching the truth???

  A.: YES! Abraham, Isaac and Jacob were all resurrected in 1925, and the world came to a violent end soon after, just as predicted by Joseph Franklin Rutherford, the second president of the Watchtower Society in his 1918 talk, "Millions Now Living Will Never Die."

  I hope you recognize sarcasm when you see it, JDWEEE.
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  XQsThaiPoes

  Question: How can an average man, with "no" education, interprete the Bible?

  It doesn't take much considering it is religion and you are not liable for any wrong interpetation.

  Question: Why would God, allow so many people to beleive the wrong thing for so long, up until the 1860's, without the right answers according the the JW's?

  THe JWs do not believe are least right now that their was a gap with out the "right thing". Sadly to our chagrin most "jw doctrine" was argued centuries ro millenia before JW's even existed.

  CT Russell was a presbytarian turned 2nd advent who finally founded a zionist watchtower magazine and a church called the bibles students. Russell did not found JWs a lawyer named Rutherford did in 1935. Pound for pound JWs believe nothing Russell did. So Weither Russell was educated or not is a moot point because his doctrine has had little effect on the JWs.

  In reality it is a okay religion as any it is just among the worst on the planet when it comes to customer service.
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  A Paduan

  Are JW teaching the truth??? No.

  They teach fundamentalism, the hope for life in the flesh, how to favour religious genocide, and "end of the world" diversionary anxieties.

  Do JW's know the truth???

  One could debate whether any other group is so clueless and willingly contemptuous to what is true.
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  gumby

  Question: How can an average man, with "no" education, interprete the Bible?

  So are we to believe that an education is required to understand gods words to his children? I feel sorry for the uneducated if this is true......I guess their simply screwed. Poor third world countries eh?

  Gumby
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  sunshineToo

  JD, first, welcome to the board!

  You are one of the lucky ones as Corvin said. When I was in the same situation as you are, I didn't try hard enough to research about the JWs. How stupid of me back then!

  There was doubts but I stayed in the organization because I thought they knew the Bible so well. But later found out that many other religious people know the Bible well as well. They just don't know the JW version of Bible. You have to think or question about why they need to have their own version of it. These are the people who said that the true Christians don't go to colleges in early 1990s. Before you get baptized as one of their own, they are going to show you only the good side of them and only the bad side of other religions.

  Did you know that you cannot file a law suit against a jw if you are a jw, no matter what?

  Did you know that you need 2 eyewitnesses to report a rape or molestation to the elders before you go to any authority? And did you know that if you don't have those 2 eyewitnesses, your case is dismissed, and you might be liable for slander if the accused deny any wrong doing?

  There are many other "rules" they didn't tell me or lied to me back then. I had to find out slowly for more than 12 years.

  Are you impressed that they seem to be knowledgeable without much education? There are many people like that in the world. For example, consider Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormon. Apparently he had a very very little education, but look how big and powerful his organization is. I didn't know they were that powerful until Elizabeth Smart case.