"We will follow them to the US"-is this guy as moron?

by IronGland 49 Replies latest social current

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    I guess it would depend on if Sadam's sons had gotten a hold of her first and maybe threw off a building with her arms tied behind her back. Or beat her in the street or cut her hands off for dealing with American money on the street. Oh yeah and Uda was apt to pick beautiful women off the street to use as sex slaves until he grew tired of them, then he killed them.

    We are not there to for kicks!


    Bryan, I didn't ask you any of the above, and btw, I don't think you're being honest when you say "I guess it would depend...", as you're far to intelligent for this low level of argumentation. As to why we are there; I'm certainly very informed on that question. Btw, "kicks" or "legitimate reasons" are not the only two options on our plate for consideration, so why bring up "kicks"? Have you heard anyone of note infer that our purpose for being in Iraq is "kicks"?

    My question again (and I asked you this to try and get you to think from the viewpoint of the people you seem to consider your mortal enemy; a very smart thing to do if you want to live and help your children thrive) is this:

    Bryan, I've met your lovely (french) wife. Tell me, if you were in the sandals of a person in Iraq, and an American (which government you've heard only negative things about your entire life, and you DIDN'T invite into your country) bomb (targeting someone else) blew her arm off and you held her while she bled to death, would the fact that the American bombers didn't "purposely" kill your wife be of comfort to you?
    I think implicit in my question is that your wife has not had her arms cut off ;-)
  • czarofmischief
    czarofmischief

    Simon has a point - the escalation of violence is not the answer. (I know, I'm confusing a lot of people here.) But threatening to nuke Mecca or Medina would only be a horrible crime in the history of the world. It would resolve nothing.

    Democracy is the answer. Yes, the chaos and unfettered freedoms can seem overwhelming at first - as the Iraqis are finding out. But in the end, they will learn to handle their freedoms responsibly. Al-Qaeda is just a flash in the pan in history, but the dream of human dignity will march on and grow.

    Sometimes the evil has to be destroyed. Individuals that recklessly choose violence and psychopathic anti-humanism have to be killed or otherwise negated. That's why I supported the war, support the war, and now I root for the Iraqi interim government. The Iraqi soccer team is going to the Olympics!

    Anyway, we need to keep going forward. We need to have the faith that the institutions that have served us and our peoples so well will work for the Arab world as well.

    CZAR

  • Bryan
    Bryan

    Six,

    My replys, "I guess it would depend", and "kicks", I had hoped you would see were a bit sarcastict. There is no way I can answer your question. Many of us think we would do this or feel that way about something, but we can't really know how it would effect us.

    What if the group across the street influenced my 16 year old son to carrying a bomb and he blew himself up. Now what if that US bomb, that tore my wifes arm off, actually hit the bastards across the street and killed them. Would I be happy they were killed for what they did to my son, even though my wife is injured? If I lived there, would it really bother me that much that my wife is injured; woman are second class there you know (even the Interim gov. was squabbling about a woman in their ranks nine months ago).

    How can you know these things unless you are really from that culture and have experienced the situation? I have a 19 year old daughter, as I have said before, if she were in the armed service and were killed in Iraq, it would kill me inside, but I would still be unbelievably proud of her sacrifice for her country and for doing her best to help other human beings to have a better life.

    Your question is truthfully unabswerable. I live in Texas, my wife makes more money than me, we have two cars and I eat what I want when I want.

    Your question is unanswerable.

    Now if the US government invaded Mexico for no other reason that to take their resourses, and take there very freedom as Sadom did his own people. Then Mexico got a big back bone and took over Texas, in the process injuring my wife, hell yes I would be mad at Mexico for injuring her. But I would be even more mad and place all blame on the US government for doing such a stupid thing!

    That one I feel I can answer.

    Have a nice day

    Bryan

    Edited to say: There is no sarcasm in this post.

  • Yerusalyim
    Yerusalyim
    I don't understand why you are so scandalized : that is what the US says in its mannor : Take Care, be our slaves or we're gonna nuke you ! (the probleme is not about take care, it is about be our slaves) and who nuked already. Anyway I do not agree with any kind of fear manipulation and greedyness ! and they are both sides (a few) to Fuck up every others people life !

    French, honey, if you got a better solution to the problem I'm listening...problem is, the terrorists aren't. The US isn't trying to make anyone a slave. Start being a bit more critical of the killers please.

  • SixofNine
    SixofNine

    Well Bryan, if there is no sarcasm in your post, then I have to say I don't have much respect for your way of thinking. You are working overtime (for crappy pay, imo) to NOT understand the point of view of your fellowman. The 16 year old son vs wife scenario was particulary nice footwork.







  • Bryan
    Bryan

    Whatever.

    Bryan

  • Nathan Natas
    Nathan Natas

    Yeru, Truthseeker, IronGland -- let's just join hands and sing along with the King of Pop Pedophiles

    "We are the world, we are the children
    We are the ones who make a brighter day
    So let?s start giving"

    "we'll drink 'Jesus juice',

    we'll grease up our behinds..."

    Boy, I just can't wait to have my own A-rab slaves!

  • shera
    shera

    Everything poltical on the board turns into spat.....whats up wit dat EH?

  • dubla
    dubla

    truth-

    I know the answer. Lets just destroy all our weapons and hold hands and sing. Nobody will ever bother to try to punk the US around then. We'll just send everyone e-cards to let them know how much we love them. Is that the proper solution?

    no, no, you have it all wrong.....we have to give them MONEY, lots and lots of CA$H. until the wealth of this planet is spread evenly, the rich nations will always be hated and attacked by terrorists. destroying all of our weapons would be a good start though......if lunatic dictators like saddam arent allowed to have them, why should we? aa

  • Farkel
    Farkel

    simon,

    : Yes, escalating violence is the path to peace and security

    Why do you suppose you are not speaking German now?

    Farkel

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