ever had an out-of-body experience? (page 3)

Sunspot

Before I stupidly accepted a "personal home bible study", I had those "flying dreams" often and loved them! I also had tried to research (public library) the subject, but didn't even know what an out-of-body experience WAS as such.

I got a book about Eckancar, soul travel, and was pretty fascinated by it---but my best friend had read it and tried it, and was scared to death by what happened to her. She was NOT a wimp and had done a lot of things through her life that I wouldn't THINK of doing, so she wasn't a frail or timid gal at all. What she said terrified me as well, so I never took the excersizes any further.

I have done more reading on the subject, but it got too "Twilight Zone-ish" for me, so I chucked the whole idea. I still find that I am afraid of something evil taking over and I wouldn't know the first thing about how to control or correct it---so I leave well enough alone!

I've had a few strange experiences as a child, seeing things when I was supposed to be sleeping---that both intrigued and frightened me.When I'd tell my Mom about them she just said I must have been dreaming---but I'm still not so sure somehow. I can still see the images clearly in my mind to this day, and it had to be almost 60 years ago. Not bad for a woman who can't remember what I had for supper last night most of the time!

RR

plenty of times, during my teenage years ... it's all a blur now ... all those drugs

Mary

ever had an out-of-body experience?

uh-huh. Every time Mary kisses me.

Aaawwww........why Corvin, I never knew you cared!!

drwtsn32

OBEs / NDEs are common when you are drugged or dying (brain not getting oxygen). They are backed up by scientific tests. I don't believe they are paranormal or supernatural.

Princess

I don't believe they are paranormal or supernatural.

Well that's a shock.

blobby

Stef,

so he already seen my cookie...lol

I like to dip cookies in my coffee !!

drwtsn32

LOL Princess! Well, some poeple don't realize they are backed by science at all...and they can reproduce NDEs in controlled tests.

Mary

Well, some poeple don't realize they are backed by science at all...and they can reproduce NDEs in controlled tests

They can re-produce some of the aspects of NDE's but certainly not all of them. The most compelling evidence that something can/does happen at death, was an article I read in the October 2003 Reader's Digest called Life After Death--New Evidence. In part it says:

"...In the summer of 1991, Pam Reynolds learned she had a life-threatening bludge in an artery in her brain. Neurosurgeon Robert Spetzler, director of the Barrow Neurological Institute in Phoenix, told the 35 year old Atlanta mother that in order to operate, he would have to stop her heart. During that time, her brain function would cease. By all clinical measures, she would be dead for up to an hour. While Reynolds was under anesthetic, leads from a machine that emitted a clicking sound were plugged into her ears to gauge her brain-stem function. Additional instruments tracked heartbeat, breathing, temperature and other vital signs. Her limbs were restrained. Her eyes were lubricated and then taped shut. As Dr. Spetzler powered up the surgical saw to open her skull, sumething occurred that never registered on any of the sophisticated monitoring devices. Reynolds felt herself "pop" out of her body. From a vantage point just above Dr. Spetzler's shoulders, she looked down on the operation. She saw him holding something that resembled an electric toothbrush. A female voice complained that the patient's blood vessels were too small. It appeared to Reynolds that the were about to operate on her groin.
That can't be right, she thought. This is brain surgery. Reynolds assumed that whatever they were doing inside her skull had triggered a hallucination. But even though her eyes and ears were effectively sealed shut, what she perceived was actually happening. The surgical saw did resemble an electric toothbrush. Surgeons were, indeed working on her groin: Catheters had to be threaded up to her heart to connect to a heart-lung machine. The Dr. gave the order to bring her to "standstill"--draining the blood from her body. By every reading of every instrument, life left Reynold's body. And she found herself travelling down a tunnel towards a light. At it's end she saw relatives, friends and her long-dead grandmother. Time seemed to stop. Then an uncle led her back to her body and instructed her to return.
Many sceptics and conventional medicine will say that this was simply a hallucination brought on by changes in the dying brain. Yet there was a problem with this interpretation. Such hallucinations could occur only if the brain maintained some function. Once flat-lined, the brain would be roughly analogous to a computer with its power source unplugged and its circuits detached. It couldn't hallucinate. It couldn't do anything at all...."

When Dr. Susan Blackmore, Queen of the Sceptics was told of this experience, her answer was typical for someone in her position when there was no scientific answer: she "assumes the account isn't accurate" and that " I can only say that my expectation is that this case did not happen like that." In other words, because Susan Blackmore doesn't like what she's heard; because it doesn't fit into her dogma that it's simply the brain being deprived of oxygen triggering a hallucination she's basically saying that Pam Reynolds is a liar.

Science has certainly helped up unlock alot of the mysteries of life, but I don't think that we should assume that science has the answer to everything.

rem

I'd like to see the evidence of this claim - not just a Reader's Digest summary. There is no point in taking an extraordinary claim seriously if there aren't the goods to back it up. I sense some exaggeration in this account, though there is no way to prove it because the evidence is conveniently missing.

rem

franklin J

never had an out of body experience.

...sounds interesting, though.

ever had an out-of-body experience?

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