"The One Mistake All Jehovah's Witnesses Have Made" (page 2)

frankiespeakin

Well he made me curious and I want to know! Now please tell me so I can go to sleep tonite.

hillary_step

Cameron,

I wish you the best with your book.

Frankly, I think you would have won more friends on this board if more than one or two of your total of fifteen posts on this Board had not have been forward promotion for your book. People who have been used in the past, have a very low threshold of patience for being used again.

That being said, the best of luck with your book, I hope that it sells well. Self promotion, as you will have noted, is not for the faint-hearted.

Best regards - HS

JCanon

Finally, finally, finally, a book about THE mistake! I've been waiting for this. Let us know when it's available, even though I can guess what the "mistake" is they all made, quite obviously!

Thinking that Jerusalem fell in either 607BCE or 587BCE when it really fell in 529BCE, right?!!! How did you find that out? Or did you just go along with Martin Anstey for dating the 1st of Cyrus in 455BCE!

Anyway, can't wait for your book!!!

That was the "mistake" right?

If that's not it, that's okay, I know they made lots of mistakes. But that has to be the biggest one I can think of!!

If you want to send me a free copy of your book, as did Olof Jonsson (a very darling person) then I'll promise to read it and review it and I promise to be objective. It's up to you. If not, I'll probably purchase and give you a review, which you can take or leave. Same old, same old when you begin to publish, right? But it sounds well researched and you seem very familiar with BRIC, ros, Penton and that bunch who are fairly well read and respected. I'm anxious to hear what you have to say about BRIC. Thanks for the advanced publication notice.

JC

Corvin

Lot's of build up, lots of name dropping in that very tantilizing plug. The boy can write a plug!

I will probably read your book, however, I don't need to read it to know what mistake I and every other x-JW, present JW and future JW has and will make. That's a no-brainer. None of us ever really questioned what we were being taught, what we were willing to believe. Most likely, not one of us ever went outside the slanted and limited information dispensed to us from the WTBTS to find out if these things were really so.

Folks like me who were born and raised in the organization never stood a chance tho.

Those who came into the org as adults . . . well . . . I just don't know. There are lots of reasons, I suppose, based on what I have read here on this forum.

I hope your book devotes a chapter to praising the greatest decision most of us have ever made since being a JW. Can you tell me what that is?

Lot's of success on your book.

Corvin

wednesday

looks like an interesting book. I have left me e-mail address. Is it available for pre-order? the more info the better. this may be the book that helps someone.

I don't have any problem with the advertising of the book here, unless the board owner does. several xjws have books and are warmly welcomed. I am for any book that will help explain jws to the average person and those trying to leave.

RR

Well, I know "The One Mistake All Jehovah's Witnesses Have Made" when they leave, they throw the baby out with the bathwater!

RR

little witch

RR, I can't even take you seriously. Your sole purpose of being on jwd seems to be that exjw's missed the boat by not becoming bible students! Talk about shameless plugging.....pot calling the kettle black IMO.

You say that we "throw the baby out with the bathwater", I say we "plucked it up by the roots" and are better off for it.

More and more, you sound like a person who must hang on for dear life to some semblance of the religion your guilt ridden mind continues to hanker for. I am sorry for being harsh, but you asked for it by your antagonizing comments.

little witch

To clarify, there are Two duplicate posts on this topic, and my comments are perhaps sparked by what was said by RR on the other post by the same name.

RR said we should "get a life" , something he has not done his damn self....

Cameron

Wow! I didn't realize what I was getting myself in for with my non-answer to the above question. I'm hoping Gary Busselman will step in soon to let you know that I'm not such a 'bad guy' after all. How do I let people know about the book if I don't promote it?

First of all, I apologize for double posting. When I sent my original post in I thought I was sending it under "Friends." But when it never showed up there I thought that it just didn't go through and so sent it in again, making sure that it was under "Friends." As you know, I haven't posted very often and so was not real familiar just how things work. Sorry about that.

And so, What is this one mistake that Ray Franz and all the rest of us (along with 6 million current Witnesses) made?

Before getting to this question in the book, I explain the Society's interpretation of Matthew 24:45-47 - ("the most important Scripture in Watchtower theology") - as explained by Fred Franz in God's Kingdom of a Thousand Years Has Approached. And that is, that in 1918 Jesus began to examine what the Society had been teaching "down till 1919" to make sure that they had been providing "the right teachings at the right time." And that since they "met the test," Jesus appointed them "over all his earthly interests" in the spring of 1919 in fulfillment of verse 47.

There is only one way to know if the Society would have received the above appointment and therefore even has a chance of being "God's organization" today. And that is by carefully making the same examination they say Jesus made.

Question: Is there anyone on this Forum who made such an examination before they concluded that "the Society is God's organization"? Ray Franz didn't begin making it until he had been on the Governing Body for about nine years, or about 60 years after he already believed that theSociety was God's organization. It was 50 years before Peter Gregerson got around to making it. It took me 20 years before I made it.

Question: Is there anyone on earth who could make such an examination and conclude that the Society had been so "faithful and discreet" about what they had been teaching from 1876 to 1919 that they would have received the appointment mentioned in verse 47? I don't see how anyone could reach such a conclusion. Do you remember Ray's conclusion following his examination?...

It would be

an insult to Christ Jesus to say that he selected this organization on the basis of what it was teaching as of 1919 .

Peter Gregerson put it this way...

There is no possible way that Christ Jesus, as a Judge, could have looked at this information [from 1876 to 1919] and have given the authority that [is] claimed by the Watchtower Society

What about the rest of us? Would any of us have ever turned our lives over to the Watchtower's illusionary "God's organization" if we had made the above examination before we got baptized... if we had not made the above mistake?

On page 44 I say...

All those who are now Jehovah?s Witnesses have failed to carefully examine the Watchtower?s claim of being God?s "faithful and discreet slave organization" based upon what Russell & Rutherford had been teaching down till 1919 in fulfillment of Matthew 24:45-47. And all those who become Jehovah?s Witnesses in the future will make this same mistake.

I hope the above answers the question, "What is the one mistake all Jehovah's Witnesses have made?"

Don

Would anyone like to see my "Table of Contents"?

Leolaia

Don....Thanks so much for the clarification, and welcome to the forum. Indeed, I suppose RR would say that you are throwing out the "baby" of Russellism in your book. I would say that your book even better undercuts the Society's claims to authority than questioning 1914 because a scholar or Furuli who wants to grasp onto that erroneous date would still have to face the question of what disqualified the Society in 1918-1919 as being considered part of "Babylon the Great" (as per JW doctrine interprets the relevant passages of Revelation and Matthew). I hope there is some discussion of the Standfasters! :)

"The One Mistake All Jehovah's Witnesses Have Made"

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