Can they be excused, in all honesty???? (page 2)

cyber-sista

(((Bliss)))

I was 29 when I was indoctrinated into the Org, so I can relate. I was suffering from post partum depression and in a very vunerable state of mind. I read into the religion what I wanted to at the time and what I was lead to believe at the time and that stuck with me for many years after. When anything bad happened I just thought it was apart from what should be happening and lived in a state of denial. I thought about the loving nature of Jesus and the amazing creation of God and rather lived in my own little "la la land". In the end I cried to an elder who had been torturing me for several months "I don't even think we believe in the same God!" And I don't think we did. I began to find out that everyone had something different going on in their heads and those who were true followers of the WT teachings were not nice people. I think a lot of JWs are in denial about their beliefs and live with their heads in the sand. Once you figure it out though I don't know how you could stay in there, but reading some of the posts I see that many raised in the Org are so programmed with fear that they are afraid of losing their families and support group and it is major for them because they know of nothing else. I hate the WT Org for screwing over so many people and feel for those who are still stuck in there because they are too weak to leave, though I don't give the GB any slack. I am sorry you had such a rough go of it Bliss.

Love, cybs

johnny cip

bliss i agree with you completely, i have debated 1000' of jw's,many for months or years. as soon a i get to the point of shutting them down. they run, hide or do what ever it takes to get away, from the facts they asked me to look up. they are truely a sick lot. i have no resepect for next to any of them. if i met 10 reasonable jw's over the years, that would be a mircle. although i think i have planted many seeds that may have, or will grow one day. bliss you have no reason to forgive these fools that hurt you or your family. spitting on them is to good for them. your a strong lady!!!!!!! john

gypsywildone

I agree Bliss. If my house is made of bad bricks, it will fall. I think there is something wrong with those people, something broken inside them. The entire thing must be made of bad bricks.

bem

OMG...(((((cyber-sista))))) The same thing happened to me with the post partum depression after my third baby was born.(two mis-carriages prior to him) I too was 29. I had studied for a lot of time then after a while off they returned when I was in a state of total depression.I knew it then but I had the I didn't cares so bad...and my relatives didn't know what to do for me so they totally avoided me.well heres these people that didn't mind being around someone that was a totally susceptible and willing to co-operate...lol ....Now I know it as love bombing...which lasted till my first sunday meeting after I was baptized....Yes that soon afterward the perfect answer to love started crumbling...Conditional love...

((((BLISS)))) They have a lot to answer for. to a great many of us it seems. The thing I'm grateful now is the fact that this site and the ones mentioned by Blondie have informed us enough to keep my adult children.My son from being re-instated....My daughter from becoming active again so "her daughter could liveforever" Which is where she was heading when I found first this site and the other similar ones.Especially now that there believing father and I are about to be divorced.He's already asking questions to help find information to get me dis-fellowshipped.That I don't care about now, since my kids are to my knowledge never going back to the Jws.The family I have that are active. I truly could care less about.But it will give them something to gossip about.Another of things I don't care about....You know how it goes when they're talking about me they're giving someone else a rest..

Dorothy.

shamus

There are many strange, mentally diseased individuals in the congregations. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure that one out. That's why I don't get too bothered with trying to 'save' people from the 'cult'. Because they do not want to know the truth! I wash my hands of them. If they do not seek out real truth, then it's they're own problem.

By the way, I don't believe that they are a cult, either. A high-control group is a closer definition, not that that's any better.

avengers

There are many strange, mentally diseased individuals in the congregations. It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure that one out. That's why I don't get too bothered with trying to 'save' people from the 'cult'. Because they do not want to know the truth! I wash my hands of them. If they do not seek out real truth, then it's they're own problem.

I wonder if any of you had kids in this religion, would you still wash your hands of them?

Are you saying to me: "Abandon your kids."?

I won't even if the whole lot of you who think otherwise will.

Andy

bem

Avengers, I personally have not, and would not "wash my hands" of my children. That being partly what caused me to re-evaluate my position in the wts.

My oldest son was df'd when I was told that I needed to be Stronger....and I was spiritually weak...because I could not shun him turn my back on him....

I will never forget the look of pain in his eyes and on his face,when he asked if that meant we (his dad and I sis.and brother) would no longer be having anything to do with him.

The impact of that moment froze my heart. to think I might never be able to speak to him again....No way. I could not shun him and go talk to,A drug dealer (a study) but still not talk to my son...Scuse me.you want me to do what!!! shun my boy won't happen...althogh on the other hand his dad said if I was harder on the boy. He would come back...Glad I made the correct choices.