Sci-Fi Fans Only: A.I.

by Maximus 42 Replies latest jw friends

  • closer2fine
    closer2fine

    I haven't seen it yet - but you have gotten my interest up!

    Maybe over the holiday weekend!

    If God dropped acid, would he see people? -- Steven Wright

  • Hmmm
    Hmmm

    Seeker,

    I usually consider myself one of the sharper knives in the drawer (all the more reason to feel utterly humiliated when I think of my years in the bORG) but I must confess that the ending of A.I. left me puzzled. Your explanation seems to make sense. I'll have to go see it again--now that I finally have the time and money to do something so frivolous as see a movie twice.

    Hmmm

  • Seeker
    Seeker

    Hmmm,

    Don't feel bad. I was fooled at first myself. They did a very bad job of getting the idea across, for it can easily be misinterpreted. But watch it a second time (as I intend to do), and notice how they do put the idea across.

  • Maximus
    Maximus

    Spielberg did it EXACTLY the way he wanted.

    stephenw20, I resonate like a tuning fork!

    Seeker, drop me a note if you would like; we need to connect on other issues.

    Maximus

  • NothingMan
    NothingMan

    Good Day Greatness!

    I was mezmerized by A.I. It cut deeply into me and left me in a pensive stupor. Nothing can be more interesting and paramount than a picture of human nature, human beings. I was mostly affected and drawn in with the presentation of the Humans need to be valued for being special and unique, and if not done at an early age we end up lost and endlessly searching for such validation. There is so much to be said about the intended message. Since film allows for ambiquity that was my mainstay.

    As to the "didn't God create Man to love him" I feel this is an empty mans view of God. I belive God created man so he could love man. And if love is really value, validation, and acceptance, his being loved by us was only out of his first love for us. And thats just me, just wanted to say something today. Yours emptily NothingMan

  • crossroads
    crossroads

    Nothingman--you might be right but when most parents
    give birth to a child they heep much love and affection on
    it as well as physically providing for it. In turn same parents
    yearn for the love of the child. Thus parents will do anything
    to get child to love then, Thus the birth of Christ. As for us
    the children of god don't we all yearn for our creators
    bossom and to be told he always has and will love us.

    BTW I posted on friday to go to see this down in the
    Art and Music section--Movie thread--It's a must see.
    Also if you go check out the length of the resurrection.
    Happy movie going all.

  • crossroads
    crossroads

    Seeker--I believe the mom is human at the end, I could
    be wrong and I don't want to go into my reasons here for the sake of those who are yet to see it. I plan to see it again
    on the 4th, maybe we can discuss it next weekend.

  • Seeker
    Seeker

    crossroads, yes, the mom is human. I wasn't referring to her.

  • Maximus
    Maximus

    For post-movie depression, read Ed Regis' "Great Mambo Chicken and the Transhuman Condition." The chapter called "Postbiological Man" offers the perfect wry perspective on A.I. in its account of the visionary Hans Moravec, who is obsessed with being transformed from man into machine. The chapter ends:

    "Human as he was, Hans Moravec was as happy a person as you'd ever want to meet. And why shouldn't he be? He understood the human condition for what it was … and he could see a way out of it.

    "All we have to do is get rid of these bodies and these brains.

    "'I have faith in these computers,' Hans Moravec said. 'This is not some way of tricking you into being less than you are; you're going to be more than you are. You're going to be more intelligent, you'll be able to do much more, understand much more, go more places, not die—all those things.

    "It really is a sort of a Christian fantasy: this is how to become pure spirit."

    Or is it?

    Maximus

  • patio34
    patio34

    Hi all,

    I went to see "A.I." yesterday and was very surprised by it. It was very thought-provoking (the best kind of fiction).

    Some salient points and comparisons for me:

    1. The line about "didn't God create Adam to love him?" to justify creating a robot to love humans.

    2. The futility of the pleading David did before the Blue Fairy. It seemed so similar to the prayers people offer endlessly to God.

    3. The "bloodthirsty" humans at the Flesh Fairs were similar in fanatacism to religious zealots.

    Twice I thought the movie was ending and yet it went on. I really enjoyed it. The robots at the end were so benevolent too. It was great.

    But there was so much more to consider about the movie. It was a warning about ecology, morality, ethics, etc.

    Thanks for the recommendation, Maximus.
    Pat

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