i never had cold sweats or regrets either. i would rather live one life my way than an eternity in jw paradise, even if it was real. it's just a case of choosing if you prefer to live and die in hope of something that may happen, or to use the life you know you have as best you can.
Do you have "cold sweats"?
by onacruse 21 Replies latest jw friends
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onacruse
Again, a fascinating combination of the "yes, I do" and the "no, I don't."
To add a little psychological twist to it (and I'm certainly no psychologist, so please be tolerant ):
I've observed, and talked with, many a person who left the borg 10, 20, even 30 years ago, and who apparently had no residual issues...but who, for whatever reason, after "stumbling" on a db like JWD, suddenly and surprisingly saw within themselves ambivalence and anger that they thought had long since disappeared from their soul.
Perhaps we aggravate our recovery by revisiting the very things that caused us to leave in the first place? Perhaps the plain and simple "I'm gone, good-by, and done with that crap for good" is the best solution?
Myself, I still feel a need to "examine that rock I hold in my hand, and figure it out."
I need serious meds. LOL
Craig
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bikerchic
Myself, I still feel a need to "examine that rock I hold in my hand, and figure it out."
I need serious meds. LOL
Craig
No honey you just need to accept what is, is. It's done, it's over time to replace that old religion with something more meaningful and useful in your life.
For me leaving was done slowly and over time. Bit by bit my little Watchtower came crumbling down and when I finally stepped back and saw the bigger picture (you know the one you can't see, the forest for the trees) I saw it for what it really is a lie, plain and simple. I knew that God couldn't be behind this organization and IF HE was, well HE isn't a God I wanted to worship, because his appointed Elders were lier's.
I left and never had "cold sweats", no longer feared the big A, I mean IF it did come I would surly die and heck you can only be so dead, right?
I must admit I did have a twinge of "what if's" on 911, but it passed as soon as I got on line and came here to JWD and read all the remarks from people in New York and others, I felt better.
Kate
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gumby
Some people seem to be able to walk away, absolute cold-turkey, from the WTS, with nary a hesitation or doubt, done deal. Others of us seem to have gone through such torture.
I guess it's a matter of how thoroughly we were infected.
Craig.....even children that are molested carry their burdens differently. Some carry on with their lives, some turn to alcohol/drugs, some commit suicide, etc.
I think in life we need to learn,....although we already know,........that everyone handles situations differently. The hard part for us is to accept the way others react and to realise we cannot expect reactions similar to ours in all cases.
I too am one who has had no nightmares...( that I can recall)...when I exited. I had some dreams of being shunned by others, but never a dream of divine execution directed at gumby coming from that ol' mean bastard Jehovah.
The same is true in all of this about those who "return" to the Organisation after years of being away and seeing their falsity. Why cannot some let go? Who knows?
Gumby
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new light
I feel absolutely zero need to find a religion or to appease some god figure who, if it exists, won't allow me to believe objectively. Oh well, all that death and destruction and judgement wasn't my bag anyway. To each his own.
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lawrence
For about 5 years after leaving I had nightmares, cold sweats, would scream out in the night, dreaming that I was locked outside the hall, etc. Living in the woods of Hawaii and N.H. for a while ended the dreams about them. I became ambivalent and disinterested, but finding these boards a few years ago made me remember all I tried to block out, and yes! I became interested and angry once again.
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onacruse
lawrence:
I became interested and angry once again.
Yes, perhaps somewhat like picking at a scab.
Along the lines of what gumby said, "Who knows?"
All I know is, that with Kate's help, and the innumerable thoughtful posts made on this board, and the help of my friends, I'm beginning to focus more clearly on the "peace at the end of the tunnel."
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HappyDad
Craig,
Your better half said it for me:
For me leaving was done slowly and over time. Bit by bit my little Watchtower came crumbling down and when I finally stepped back and saw the bigger picture (you know the one you can't see, the forest for the trees) I saw it for what it really is a lie, plain and simple. I knew that God couldn't be behind this organization and IF HE was, well HE isn't a God I wanted to worship, because his appointed Elders were lier's.
This statement along with my own personal experiences and doubts led me to the real truth. But I will admit..........no cold sweats but some bad sleep paterns and dreams about those I knew in the org. Those dreams seemed to be about me being around them......at a KH or whatever........and "faking" that I was one of them......but not being one of them.........or the dream had me trying to "subtly" tell them the real truth. These dreams stopped a few months ago and I don't miss them. My beliefs these days are very fullfilling..........I love going to church.........espcially Calvary Chapel......their message is soooooo bible based without pomp and ceremony. Now......I am ready.......willing....and able to stand up for what I believe if a dub I knew wants to have a chat...........BRING IT ON BRO!
HappyDad
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Satanus
No, but i had doubts at times. After i stopped believing, i studied every day the bible, church history, theology, wt history, all the antiwt stuff, that doubts stopped coming after a yr or two. I also enjoyed going to churches during that time.
It was when i found the bible to be false that i fell into a terrible depression for about a month. Then, for another month i slowly came out of it, for the most part, to just my regular depression.
S
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Soledad
NO, not at all, I was one of those "cold turkey" quitters and I never ever even once for a second doubted my decision. And this was way before I discovered the internet!