VICTORY FOR MY CHILDREN OVER THE JW'S! (page 4)

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Corvin -

This is wonderful news!!

Congratulations!!!

Lisa

68storm

CONGRADULATIONS!!

Corvin, you did an amazing job for your children. In the future, they will appreciate it much more.

I was in a similar situation (the only difference being I was Never a jw) and I also managed to win. I was able to get primary custody of my son on the day that he turned 12. I had a very difficult time finding a lawyer that was willing to consider that my ex?s lifestyle was not in the best interest of our son. The first thing that they all said was that the courts will not hear arguments against anybody?s religious beliefs.

For anyone that finds themselves in a similar situation, you must show the courts that the jw?s lifestyle is not in the children?s best interest. Never try and attack their religious beliefs.

Again, Way to go Corvin!!!

68storm

Xandria

Way to go !

I am happy that it went so well. It is definately a VICTORY! Now your children will have some peace to grow up normal and safe. I really hope she keeps the letter of the court orders.

X.

bebu

Yeeaa-hooo!

Thanks for keeping us up-to-date!!!! We really do appreciate this a lot!

bebu

Rabbit

Discussing religion with any of the children is forbidden from this day until they turn 18

REALLY ? Damn...I did not know that was possible. Congrats...

ezekiel3

Corvin, I am so happy for this impending victory. Even though this has been an emotional strain on your daughters, I am very pleased with this recommendation. Please post any part of the ruling you can, so many will appreciate it.

I wonder how much of their mother "is left" when you strip away the religion? This might prove to show what an emotional vacuum JWs live in.

Also, did you notice my post on Belguim and the exact same custody rights that country is granting non-JWs vs JWs?

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/78423/1.ashx

It's nice to see US courts are waking up to the reality of JW mind control as well.

shotgun

Corvin...buddy I hope the Judge agees to those terms

willy_think

It doesn't sound like you could ask for anything better, well done sir!

Corvin

Mary and I attended court this morning. Sara and Mark were there along with a JW friend, the mother of Nancy's best friend, along with her mother.

Outside the courtroom, the attorney went over and had us sign off on his recommendation. After I signed I walked toward the courtroom where Mark was standing. He look right at me, so I smiled and winked at him. He said, "Don't even look at me!"

LOL. It gets better, wait!

The courtroom was packed and we waited about 45 minutes before our case was called. Not bad considering . . . The judge, with little discussion ordered the following:

Minors shall have visitation with their mother, until further order of the Court, as follows:

Unsupervised visitation with the Minors at the Minor?s request;
Unsupervised visitation shall occur away from the mother?s home and shall be outside of the step-father?s presence, (except in therapy).
Minors may call their mother whenever they wish.
Mother shall be allowed to telephone the Minors.

The parties agree to participate in the Minor, Nancy?s, therapy at the OZ San Diego as requested by the Minor?s therapist. The parties agree that the Minors, Elizabeth and Elese, as well as the stepfather will also participate in Nancy?s therapy at the OZ as recommended by the said Minor?s therapist.
Neither party shall discuss their respective religious beliefs with the Minors except in the therapy with the Minors.
Neither party shall interfere with the other party?s religious beliefs or rights: and neither party shall speak in a derogatory manner to the Minors regarding the other parent.
A review hearing will be held on November 16, 2004 at 9:00 a.m.

Next, the judge addressed the restraining order issue. He read the Sara?s request and my response. He then pulled out a big fuzzy 8 x 10 color photo of me standing across the street from the KH hold a very big sign over my head. The judged asked had the bailiff hand me the photo to examine. He asked if that was me in the photo and he wanted to know what my sign said. I said flatly, "Yes, your honor, yes, that is me, and the sign says, ? JW?s ABUSE MY KIDS - ELDERS DO NOTHING TO STOP IT ?"

The judge then asked what my religious affiliation was. I spoke up and stated clearly that I was born and raised as one of Jehovah?s Witnesses, but I was now excommunicated from the church. He nodded, and asked me to respond to the restraining order.

I said that Sara?s request for the restraining order is based on allegations of "abuse" or "threat of abuse". There is nothing in her allegations to support I have any bad intent toward Sara, Mark and the others listed in the Request. My speech and actions in these instances were restrained and in proportion to the situation I was facing.

The judge then allowed Sara to respond. She said that I have been showing up at her door for eight years harassing her and her husband. She took on the little quivery-on-the-verge-of-tears voice she always uses in the courtroom when lying to the judge. She said that I forced my girls to go picket the KH, she said that my protesting at the KH was harassment and that Mary held a sign that said, "SARA, STOP HARASSING MY HUSBAND!" That on the 27 th of August, I called Mark out to fight.

He allowed me to respond once again. I said that "during the first instance of demonstrating at the KH, Mark and Sara were not even there. Anything she might say regarding the incident is fantasy, fabrication or hearsay. The sign Sara is talking about said precisely, ?SARA, STOP SLANDERING MY HUSBAND?, this in response to her public accusation that I sexually molest my children. These parents in connection with the elders in her congregation have been covering the real abuse issues, past and present, for eight years, and that is why we are here today. "

Because Sara presented letters from JW?s filled with lies, stating that I challenged Mark to fight on 8-27-04, the same night he told Nancy and Elizabeth they were bad association, the judge ordered the restraining order to remain in effect for 3 years, but did not apply to therapy situations or situations that pertain to discussing visitation arrangements.

The judged addressed Sara and told her that he cannot and will not order me to stop picketing her church. He said that my demonstrating is anther matter altogether.

When dismissed, the bailiff/Sheriff asked me to remain in the courtroom until Sara has left the building. I sat. Mary went out into the hall were the same Sheriff was explaining to Mark and Sara the application of the restraining order. Mark suddenly snapped at Mary, "He (me) has to stay 100 yards away from us!" The Sheriff shot back at the fat f*ck, "YOU can?t talk to her!" Mark pouted and walked away.

Here is the interesting part . If I am an apostate, (and I fully intend to send An official letter to the elders of their congregation renouncing my belief in the organization of Jehovah?s Witnesses and their teachings ), according to the strict rules of the organization, Mark and Sara are not to mix in my company whatsoever. Because they have agreed to go to "group" therapy with me, this now puts them into some pretty "spiritually dangerous" circumstances. If they attend therapy, they are violating "God?s laws", but if they do not show up in obedience to the law, they will be in contempt of court and will be fined and or serve jail time.

If they attend therapy as mandated by the court, I will have a controlled platform for ripping apart their conduct and their beliefs. I will have the opportunity to meticulously expose them for the liars and hypocrites they are and it will be documented. These therapy sessions will be video taped with all of our consent by the therapist herself. Can?t wait to get in there. I now get to address some real issues with them and they have to sit there and listen. They now have to answer for their actions to me, the therapist, the Court, and most of all, MY KIDS.

This is a victory for my kids, first and foremost. Mark and Sara will inevitably keep pushing and violate something just as soon as they think they can get away with it. I am ready for that.

Well, that?s all for now folks, I am going to uncork some Merlot now and just chill for a day.

Love you guys,

Corvin

simplesally

according to the strict rules of the organization, Mark and Sara are not to mix in my company whatsoever

Corvin,

They are not mixing in your company for a social or spiritual exchange. This is 'family business' and considered legitimate to be in your presence.

VICTORY FOR MY CHILDREN OVER THE JW'S!

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